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Men, How Are We Viewing Women? How Are We Viewing One Another?
Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 06:09 AM

In light of the recent posts in the forums,

Men, How Are We Viewing Women? How Are We Viewing One Another?

To spiritually love our wives. What a beautiful thing! To understand their physical bodies in light of their spiritual reality! What significance might a woman�s bre asts have spiritually? How can we truly come to see our wives in this way? How can we come to love our wives in spirit and in truth? The way they deserve to be seen as bearers of the image of God.

Anyone is able to love someone in the physical, focusing only on the physical reality of the person they are with, while the person they are focusing on remains in a state of spiritual death and decay. But if the "flesh counts for nothing", and yet Jesus calls us to love one another, then is He calling us to love one another in what does not count (the flesh)?

When we come together with our wives, are we to only be focusing on that in our wives and enjoying that in our wives that counts for nothing? That, which will not last, but is going to eventually perish (the flesh)? Absolutely not. It is appropriate to enjoy the physical aspects of our wives, but the emphasis needs to be placed on Christ within them. HE needs to be the focus of our affections. Otherwise we set ourselves up to be able to enjoy the physical aspects of anyone and anything whether Christ is a part of those things or not. We set our wives up as well to respond favorably to this type of affection - which can come from anyone.

How many mothers focus only on the physical aspects of their children in the name of love and do exceptional jobs of raising perfectly healthy children who are spiritually starving to death and in a state of spiritual decay? How many husbands focus only on the physical aspects of their wives in the name of love and do exceptional jobs of leading a perfectly healthy woman who is spiritually starving to death and in a state of spiritual decay?

When most Mothers raise their children they are focused only on the physical state of their children instead of their children�s spiritual reality. When most couples engage in physical intimacy they are focused only on the physical state of their intimacy (themselves) instead of each other�s spiritual reality (Christ within each of them). When people view pornography, they too are focused on the physical and not on Christ in themselves or in the people or persons they are viewing � and yes, this �would� include mental images one may think of while fantasizing (mental pornography is what it is). And whenever anyone focuses only on the physical, they are able to enjoy the person they are focusing on regardless of that person�s spiritual condition (reality). They are able to �in the name of love� show no concern whatsoever (true love) for the starving spiritual condition of the person they are essentially using. We do not mean to do this to ourselves or to others. Adam and Eve did not mean to do this to each other either. But nonetheless, in both cases it is what it is. And somehow we are disconnected from the truth (reality) of what we are to be focused on.

Are we attracted to physically dead, decaying people? Not at all. Have you seen a coke advertisement using a rotting corpse lately? Probably not. How can we become reconnected to the �meaning� that is truly there? Someone�s or something�s spiritual reality. Remembering that the flesh counts for nothing.

It was Jehovah God that the Israelites were to enjoy in the richness of the Promise Land (spiritual). Not just the Promise Land itself (the physical). But because the Israelites failed to see this, they failed completely.

If attraction, arousal and intimacy were seen for what they are, for what they must be, for someone�s spiritual condition, and we weren�t so focused on what counts for nothing (the flesh), then it would not be so easy to be tempted by pornography. Adultery would be seen for what it is. Countless television shows would lose their appeal and be canceled, and on and on and on.

We are viewing each other with eyes that will one day rot and decay. We are not viewing the reality of what is around us, which can only be seen with our minds. And because of this, we are being deceived. Appearance seldom equals reality. Just because someone is nice or physically appealing does not mean that they�re good.

Why would someone want to have children with a dead person? Why would someone want a dead person to kiss them, make love to them, raise and teach their children? Can spiritually dead people make God feel good? Are they able to please God? Should spiritually dead people be able to make us feel good? In movies, music, as friends and even family. Who were Christ's mothers, brothers and sisters? Which reality was HE focused on? Remember, that it is His image that we bear.

All of the above has everything to do with the "soil" of untruth that enables pornography and pornographic thoughts to take root and grow. = There are basic untruths needed in order for pornography / pornographic thoughts to be enticing to anyone. :eat:

As we come to know the truth of our own sexuality and of God's original blueprints for intimacy, pornography (a major untruth) will automatically begin to lose its grip within a person's life (being renewed with the mind of Christ). = As we come to know God's truth (Light), the untruth in us (darkness) is automatically driven back. :angeldevil: And we begin to be set free. :angel:

God bless

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 09:37 PM

"The intent of your heart breathed life into your words (Perhaps it was the Lord speaking through you?) Either way, it made a lot of sense."

Thank you for your compliment MsMarvel. I really do appreciate hearing (or reading :goofball: ) what you have to say :)

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 09:43 PM

Dennis,

To this day I cannot use "zest" soap - cause I had it rammed down my mouth too many times :(

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 10:22 PM

Mydreamtime33, you're welcome and thanks.



I appreciate your un-biased view of me.





I agree with you when you said....





"Thank you very much for your comments HGG. Not only have I enjoyed reading your posts, but I've especially enjoyed reading the responses you've prompted from others. It has made for some interesting reading!"





lol....Never thought I'd get that kind of response either. It's cool with me though.







MsMarvel, believe it or not, I don't hate you. I actually have been praying for you, and everyone else here.



It's all good sweetie.



And thanks for the writing compliment. I just got a nice little freelance gig. Very excited about it. Praise God. Blessings to you!

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 10:25 PM

Twosparrows, having an audience is perfectly fine! You're right, it is great training ground for me. Like I told MsMarvel, I just got a freelance job, so well, I better be good at what I do....lol...Too late now, the Lord has already opened the door for me, and I'm going in, regardless of what anyone says.





Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2011 10:28 PM

IaoKim, you're right. Sometimes it is how it's said, instead of who said it. And sometimes, it's who said it. It's sad, it's wrong and it's unfortunate, but it's like that sometimes. I'll leave it at that.

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 08:36 AM

How Are We Viewing Women? Iknow am too hard

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Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 08:23 PM

Riveroflife1,

"How many of us have ever experienced the love of a Father?"

Even though my father was somewhat around when I was a child, for the most part he was absent from my life. When he was around, what he passed onto my brother, sister and I was very harmful.

Because of this, it has taken me many many years to understand God's love for me - I struggle to this day to accept God's love for me as well as the love of others.



"How much different our lives would be. somethings that seem so simple but are life changing for a child. we still have opportunities to be that for someone else."

Amen to that Riveroflife!

God does give us opportunities to give to others what we were never given! In fact, that is probably one of the main ways the Lord chooses to heal us from our pasts :) God has used my own love for my children to comfort me and help me to understand how precious I am to Him :') .



"speaking LIFE into the lives of others is crucial." - It is what we're given life for...

"love all you guys on the forums and wanted to say that you all bless me." - Thank you for blessing us with your thoughts Riveroflife. Your thoughts are very special!

God bless you

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