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On the Dialectic and the Dialectic Mind In Christianity
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On the Dialectic and the Dialectic Mind In Christianity



"For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by

us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in

him was yea. For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him

Amen, unto the glory of God by us." II Corinthians 1:19-20



In Jesus Christ there are no shades of grey, no double mindedness,

only absolutes. The dialectic

mind, on the other hand, operates on shades of grey and doublemindedness.



The dialectic mind deals in relationships of feeling, with feelings

and opinions,

and argues against absolutes to defend those feelings and opinions.

Remember that

the self psychologists, especially Carl Rogers, was not interesting in

cognition, in how accurate

a person's perception is, but only in what he feels. He only asked,

"How do you feel?"



"But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven,

neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be

yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation." James 5: 12



The dialectic mind does not believe in the absolute truth of the Word

of God. It wants to argue

against that absolute truth, and tries to compromise it in some way -

by a dialogue with those who are presenting the truth.



The dialectic mind starts from a position that there are no

absolute truths or absolute morals. It is a mind that

accepts yea and nay about doctrines taught in the scripture. Those who

use dialectic

arguments against the facts of scripture are always looking for

loopholes, shades

of grey, contradictions and verses where the meanings and implications

are not spelled out in great detail to hit at with their rejection of

the absolute.



Scripture often teaches important doctrines by scattering

verses on a doctrine in different books of the Bible, here a little

and there a little. "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon

precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a

little:" Isaiah 28: 10



And scripture does not spoon feed, that is, spell out in great detail

many implications of a statement. The reader is left to find the

understanding that the Spirit intends. And so, since important

doctrines are not usually summarized in one short chapter in the

Bible, but are given in pieces at different places and doctrines are

not usually spelled out in their implications, this is where man made

theology often steps in and takes over. And the dialectic procedure

of argument or quarreling promotes and defends these false doctrines.



Those who operate with the dialectic - which is now almost everyone in

our culture -

try to justify themselves before men (Luke 16: 1).



The dialectic as an argument, a way of changing the absolute truth

that one's opponent holds to, historically has come out of a system of

thought which teaches that there is no God.. It comes out of Hegel

and Marx. But before Hegel and Marx it came out of the second beast of

Revelation 13: 11, who has two horns like a lamb but speaks as a

dragon, and from the dragon himself whose use of the dialectic was on

Eve in Genesis 3 to fix her obedience to the absolute authority of God over her.



The dialectic as an attitude and belief changing procedure was

perfected and developed in small face to face groups first in the

Group Dynamics movement in social psychology, and soon in encounter

groups run by clinicians. The ideological foundation for the change

agents in psychology and psychiatry was laid in this country by

refugees from Nazi Germany, those of the Transformational Marxist

Frankfurt School, who first mixed Marx with Freud and later mingled

Marx with American Personality, Self Psychology, Social Psychology and

aspects of clinical psychology The dialectic not only shifts the way

people argue, but it changes the way they think. And it spread to

Christianity some decades ago.



The dialectic as an argument tries to compromise absolute

truth or a absolute morality in some way - in order to preserve relationships

of feeling with one's man made doctrines, his denomination, church and

religious friends..



And the dialectic deals with dialogue as argument and as quarrels

between those who hold different opinions within the dialectic world

of non-absolutes. In addition, those who hold to false man made

doctrines tend to use a dialectic type of argument to promote and

defend their doctrines against scripture. The dialectic type of

quarrel can be found in Genesis 3: 1-6 where Satan fixed Eve's

obedience to God, and in some exchanges between the Pharisees and

Christ, as in John 8. However, Christ did not dialogue - as having a

quarrel - with individual Pharisees. He preached and taught, and the

Pharisees responded with dialectic arguments against his absolute

truths.



The world has, during the period the falling away of II Thessalonians

2: 3-4 has gone on and the leavening of the church has been in

progress (Luke 13: 21), shifted its paradigm. The West of Northern

Europe and North America shifted from a mostly absolute truth to

shades of grey, to opinion, to how do you feel about it, what do you

think?



The church, being part of the world has also shifted its way

of viewing absolute truth, though it has to teach scripture to some

extent to preserve its standing as a religious institution.



The basis of faith is trust that the word of God has been preserved, and

that it is absolute truth and facts, not opinions, and not just

emotions. When the dialectic, coming down from Hegel and Marx, takes

over the thinking process, then faith is weakened because the

dialectic challenges the absolute nature of the word of God as his

patriarchal authority. And the dialectic is behind movements in

society since the early fifties such as the counterculture, feminism,

the homosexual and lesbian movements, pornography and other attacks

upon the Father figure and upon the strong family to overthrow

patriarchal authority.



Patriarchal authority was replaced to some extent by matriarchal

authority, for example. in the feminist movement associated originally

with the counterculture, and soon

we got heresiarchal authority in Christianity, which was not new, but

was given a new look as the 20th century went on and turned into the

21st century

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On the Dialectic and the Dialectic Mind In Christianity
Posted : 30 Aug, 2013 04:22 AM

Its a great thing to preach scripture but It is also great to help people understand it and apply it according to their personal life. Practically speaking.



Example: I have a unbeliever working with me and he is married to a baby christian who was recently born again.



I was meditating on the scripture about a believer being married to a unbeliever. I am sure you are familiar.



Now if i just quoted the scripture without explaining the dynamics of was was going onin their relationship it would not have served him as well.



In their relationship prior to her new birth they are one with eachother and becoming more oneanother in how they think and express their selves. He was like that is right.



I explained to him that now their is a new influence in her life and this influence will influence him also in his way of thinking. He said this not me because he got what I was saying. That he will have to choose if he wants to stay or not because of this.



I never even quoted the passage about the unbeliever departing only the part about the unbeliever being santified and what that means.



I explained that his wife going through this transformation as a babe will one day like children do try imitating adult behavor.



In doing so she will create some disturbance in their home. I was giving him a foreknowledge of things to come.



So in one little passage I could have effected change for their future because he is now armed with truth of his life and situation that he now can live with understanding with his wife.



Sometimes small simple truth makes that greatest difference. like.....for God so loved the world....



I love the small nuggets of truth all through scripture and that is what I search for.



But I appreciate your long biblical teachings bro, keep up the good work.

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