Author	Thread: Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest?
Admin	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 4 Aug, 2012 12:56 PM Hello lady's and gentleman. I got a complex problem for those women who love a good challenge. I'm always hearing women tell me that they want an honest and nice man. And in my book honesty has to be one of the greatest virtues of godly character -- expescially in this modern age. I don't have a problem getting a woman. It's keeping them. See, in my past relationships I have enjoyed getting to honor God (because God hates lairs) and being extremely honest and upfront with my long list of ex-girlfriends. It's not that I spill my guts out too them lol. But each woman besides telling me that I'm the greatest Guy they've ever been with, has also told me their reasons for leaving and there all along the lines of me being too honest. So, I got to wonder a few things... Is there any woman who really does cherish honesty and not just say they do but back it up with action? Should I stop being honest towards women, because I see other guys who seem to have no character at all have more luck at making into a longer term relationships and marriage then us righteous men do. ( I'll admit that a lot of that has to do with them getting a woman pregnant before marriage. But my point is there.. it works and if you have to trick someone into marriage these days then what's the point ) I also think about a larger perspective. In a Lady gaga inspired, short skirt world -- where seeing a woman or man naked is just a click away: Is there anyone that want's to be valued, wants to be different from the world, and wants to holy. Enough to please God By acting on that desire with every step they make. I see so many women say on their profile's how happy they are in a world that the Bible says is ruled by the devil until Christ returns. Their number one quality that they are looking for in a man. "That he makes her laugh." Entertainment? Really? I'm honestly feeling kind of defeated right now because no one seems to get the bigger picture from God's perspective. Anyway, God bless and thanks to any opinions that come my way. If your confused what I'm asking, " Is there such a thing as being too honest and if there is, how much should I lie about? Because telling people the truth isn't working.. they seem to want some kind of disneyland princess experience... which I don't know how that's going to help in a marriage but whatever lol. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 4 Aug, 2012 03:21 PM To start off, your whole tone is wrong in this message. You're asking women whom you've never spoken to before to help you with a problem and you write like you're angry, why is that? Perhaps it's the way you see your honesty. Maybe what you see as honesty, other people see as mean, or hateful. I'd have to have an example of you "being honest" to know how to help you. Women don't want the Disneyland princess experience, we want a kind man who doesn't fly off the handle because of his emotions. I'm guessing you tell women a lot when they're first getting to know you, would that be correct? Women need time to get to know you, you're just a man to them until they know you, they need time to trust you. You can't just expect people in this day and age to trust you right away. You have to learn to be way more gentle. An example? Two Christian men tell the same girl with a revealing skirt the same exact thing, but one says it differently. Man 1: Wow, uh, you look really easy in that skirt, could you be more considerate to a brother and cover up, people are thinking things about you. Man 2: Miss, can I make a suggestion and tell you to wear something more appropriate around us brothers, it's hard to keep from stumbling and being strong in the Lord for all of us. Both men were being honest, but which man would that woman consider speaking to again? Even more importantly which man made her want to wear something different the next day? God bless you. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 4 Aug, 2012 03:35 PM :applause: Ms Marvel..... Tone and timing. Then we wont sound like clanging symbols. Love not only considers the truth but considers a person. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 4 Aug, 2012 04:26 PM "to start off, your whole tone is wrong in this message. You're asking women whom you've never spoken to before to help you with a problem and you write like you're angry, why is that?" or Sir, can I make a suggestion and tell you that some people might be put off by your tone? When I read it, I thought it came across as a bit angry. I am sure that was not your intention. You see how easy it is to be honest and still not get it quite right despite having a good heart and the right intentions? Post Reply
View Profile History	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 4 Aug, 2012 05:19 PM Ms. Marvel. I write like I'm angry because I am angry. I just got broke up with.. let again because I was honest and sincere. I think your right though if this message was how I normally try to be honest to someone then I'm doing it all wrong. Jesus had compassion along with truth. I am asking women because women normally get emotion a lot better then men. They also get other women's point of view better And I really do want advice. Why is there a trend of "nice guys" finishing last? Why do I talk to my non Christian friends and discover that they don't have problems like me and other Christian men are having. They brag about how they cheat on their girlfriends, look at porn and manipulate their girlfriends into sex. They use women, so why don't they get the "we're better off friends" line. I understand satan wants to destroy everything good and godly. Almost everything God wants is in reverse. So if anything you could say that I'm also bitter that others won't stand for God. I read 2 Timothy 3:1-9 NLT You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control. They will be cruel and hate what is good. They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. They will act religious, but they will reject the power [and truth] that could make them godly. Stay away from people like that! They are the kind who work their way into people�s homes and win the confidence of vulnerable women who are burdened with the guilt of sin and controlled by various desires. (Such women are forever following new teachings, but they are never able to understand the truth.) These teachers oppose the truth just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses. They have depraved minds and a counterfeit faith. But they won�t get away with this for long. Someday everyone will recognize what fools they are, just as with Jannes and Jambres. And I think about this passage all the time because living a godly life takes more effect and trying to explain to falsehoods like being gay is wrong or other issues the Bible talks about. Well, there very touchy subjects. I know this is because the devil has made them that way because he want to hinder the truth and so it's frustrating to see Christian women leave because of honestly. Then to find out later on that someone who doesn't even read the Bible and has told me personally that they just used "religion" to just get married to an ex of mine. Well, I think you get my point. By the way ms marvel, your name suits you. I have read your comments many times before and they're always uplifting and inspiring. :applause: Post Reply
View Profile History	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 4 Aug, 2012 05:25 PM A godly life takes more effort* typo Post Reply
View Profile History	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 4 Aug, 2012 05:31 PM Thank you, BobBobbins, for bringing that to light. I understand, even my tone could have seemed harsh. I apologize to anyone reading, including bsgdude, whom I can better understand now. You're right, bsgdude, I'm sorry....I understand the reason for your bitterness. You have every right to be sad, and angry... I'm sure many of the apostles were sad and angry when they saw the things they saw. Now we see the things they saw on a much greater scale, and of great magnitude. I apologize about your break up. It doesn't feel good getting your heart trampled on, I know. We're not all like that, I promise. I will pray for you that God shoves the woman he has for you into your life and that you might see her. Thank you, God bless you. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 4 Aug, 2012 05:58 PM I know that you are a good egg Marvel :angel: To all - Isn't there also another problem with the direction that our culture is going? These days, it seems people are trying to find reasons to be offended. It's like walking on egg shells everywhere for fear of not offending somebody's hypersensitive ears. When is enough too much? As Christians, when will we learn to overlook offenses in people's wording and see into their hearts and intentions. Shouldn't we all be slower to assume the worst behind our fellow brothers and sisters words? I dunno.. something to think about. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 4 Aug, 2012 09:50 PM Proverbs 27 6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. Question is, who's my friend? Post Reply
View Profile History	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 02:39 PM I love that verse ms marvel, bit you don't have to ask who's your friend... just look at the bigger picture :) You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? (Matthew 7:16) To which "someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds." Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. " (James 2:18) Proverbs 12:26 One who is righteous is a guide to his neighbor, but the way of the wicked leads them astray. Proverbs 13:20 Whoever walks with the wise becomes wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm. Proverbs 14:6-7 A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of understanding. Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge. What is wisdom? The "Fear of the LORD is the foundation of all true wisdom. All who obey God's commandments will grow in wisdom and understanding. Praise his righteousness forever!" (Psalms 111:10) Proverbs 22:24-25 Make no friendship with a man given to anger, nor go with a wrathful man, lest you learn his ways and entangle yourself in a snare. 1 Corinthians 15:33 Do not be deceived: �Bad company ruins good morals.� Luke 6:31 And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them. Proverbs 11:14 Where there is no guidance, a people falls, but in an abundance of counselors there is safety. Proverbs 17:17 A friend loves at all times, and a brother is born for adversity. Proverbs 19:20 Listen to advice and accept instruction, that you may gain wisdom in the future. Proverbs 24:5 A wise man is full of strength, and a man of knowledge enhances his might, Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another. See, God's got your back. As long as you come back to God, "Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands now, turn away from disobedience you sinners, and purify your hearts in his instructions and commandments, you double-minded." (James 4:8) Post Reply
View Profile History	Is there such a thing as a guy being too honest? Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 03:04 PM Thank you, bsgdude, that makes a lot more sense now. Happy the Lord gave you that to bring to light. Post Reply

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