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Posted : 5 Sep, 2011 11:47 PM

Here is a simple example of a falsehood



Jn 17:17 � Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.



The meaning of this word truth is without falsehood, right there you will lose a lot of people, they refuse to accept this simple truth, because it will not agree with their doctrine's of mental assent.



Every word of God is a seed, and that seed among many things is full of faith, it is also spirit, it is also life, it is also light, it is also water.



The perfect will of God for man is to hear the word by man's spirit, not just the natural ear, to believe the word of God, and to then mix faith with the word of God, or in other words corresponding actions to the word heard and believed.



Truth is without falsehood!!



To believe, is to act as if the word is true.



Those that are given to what they call interpreting are given to violating these simple truths and justifying their interpretations, that will never produce faith.



Now an example of one falsifying a bible truth. It is vital to say here as Jesus said this is how the whole kingdom of God operates. That is to say having a ear to hear with the heart or spirit, never the mind, then believing with the heart and the mixing of faith with the word heard.





Jn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

JN 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.



Just to be fair we will provide another scripture to establish this bible truth, it is not necessary to respond to any scripture but we do want to be in agreement with scripture in that any truth is to be established with two or three witnesses.



Here is your second witness: oh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.



Any one that will hear this word and believe it is saved very simple.



When you know the process of faith as Jesus taught you can always readily expose any false teaching.



Whatever is not of faith is sin if it is not declared in the word it is not of faith.



For example the doctrine of total inability, is simply the imagination and justification of man, in the fabrication of another doctrine. You will never find that wording anywhere in the bible, plus you will find example after example of man doing just what that doctrine says they can not do, then you will start hearing the justification's of man, as to why that is not so, in otherwords I said it is not so, so it is, lol and totally denying the word of God. with their actions which is simply twisted faith, Fear.



Man's perfect example of man walking by faith was the Lord Jesus, oh if man would simply believe the word of God. Jeus knows how to teach you to walk by faith.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 06:29 AM

this is not finneyism so i know you won't agree.



I Timothy 6:3 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 5 and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. 6 Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, 7 for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 08:05 AM

Yes Calvinism is another doctrine, and the word of God is the proof and The Spirit of God is the witness, The finnyism comment is just another evidence against yourself.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 09:29 AM

1.Matthew 15:9~ But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

2.Mark 7:7~ Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

3.Colossians 2:22~ Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 10:11 AM

Reading this Scripture we come upon in the very First Verse



�I Timothy 6:3 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness,�



�If anyone teaches�� TEACHES! Christ Created a TEACHING CHURCH.



�Go and TEACH what I Have Commanded You�



When Christ Gave His Church this Commandment�there Was No New Testament! His Church Could not Use God�s Written Revelation as Their Guide�it had not been Written yet (only The Old Testament�The Septuagint was Written!).



The Church Used God�s ORAL Revelation � The Full Deposit of FAITH � that Christ Gave Her�that Christ Taught Her�That Christ COMMANDED Her To �Hold Fast These Traditions� and to �Pass them on to TRUSTWORTHY Elders�.



I know you do not like to Hear this�but�Paul Clearly Warns Christians.



Think About it. There was No New Testament that The Church was Using because there was none until LATER�so�what did The Church USE to TEACH?



Who Had The Authority to Point Out Errors? Who was it that Had The Last WORD? Who was The Apostles LEADER?

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 10:22 AM

The apostles taught the church out of the old testament. and with the letters we now hold as the new covenant.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 10:30 AM

John 15:5,8,16: Jesus says, If a man:rolleyes: remains in Me and I in him, he will bear much *FRUIT*....This is to My Father's Glory, that you bear much *FRUIT*, showing yourself to be My disciple ....You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear *FRUIT*�*FRUIT* that will last.�



Matthew 21:43: Jesus warns, "The Kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its *FRUIT*!"



Galatians 5:22: "The *FRUIT* of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control."



Colossians 1:10: "We pray this in order that you:rolleyes: may live a life worthy of the Lord and may please Him in every way: bearing *FRUIT* in every good work!"



Very often we hear of people who claim to be believers who give 10% to the church, go to church over 3 times a week, belong to the choir, live a good life etc etc, but don't produce any *FRUIT*! Their Pastors assure them that they are going to heaven and that they are sound in doctrine but gives them no practical ideas on how to produce *FRUIT* and how to practically use their gifts.



Matthew 5:14,16: Jesus says, �You are the LIGHT of the world...Let your LIGHT shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven."



I Corinthians 3:6-9: Paul says, �The Lord has assigned to each his task. I planted the seed. Apollos watered it, but God made it grow... The man who plants and the man who waters have one purpose, and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. For we are God's fellow workers!�



Daniel 12:3: �Those who impart wisdom will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever!!�:applause:



So let our lights *SHINE* with the many gifts God has given us and we can have a REVIVAL with the hope of countless eternal rewards for faithful and loving service.



I Corinthians 1:7: For �You:rolleyes: do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be *REVEALED*!�



So let us:rolleyes: read God's Word daily {Acts 17:11} and then *DO WHAT IT SAYS*! {James 1:22,25}



Acts 17:11: �The Bereans were of noble character, for they:rolleyes: received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures *EVERY DAY*!�:angel:



James 1:22,25: �Do not merely listen to the Word. *DO WHAT IT SAYS*!... and he who continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but *DOING IT*�will be blessed in what he does."

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 12:03 PM

Here is some falsehood for you. Charles Grandison Finney was a heretic. That language is not too strong. Though he excelled at cloaking his opinions in ambiguous language and biblical-sounding expressions, his views were almost pure Pelagianism. The arguments he employed to sustain those views were nearly always rationalistic and philosophical, not biblical. To canonize this man as an evangelical hero is to ignore the facts of what he stood for.

Don't be duped by sanitized 20th-century editions of Finney's works. Read the "Complete and Newly Expanded" 1878 edition of Finney's Systematic Theology, recently published by Bethany house Publishers (the unabridged 1878 version with a couple of Finney's later lectures added). This volume shows the real character of Finney's doctrine. (The unabridged 1851 version is now online, and it also exposes Finney's errors in language not toned down by later redactors.) By no stretch of the imagination does Finney deserve to be regarded as an evangelical. By corrupting the doctrine of justification by faith; by denying the doctrines of original sin and total depravity; by minimizing the sovereignty of God while enthroning the power of the human will; and above all, by undermining the doctrine of substitutionary atonement, Finney filled the bloodstream of American evangelicalism with poisons that have kept the movement maimed even to this day.

That's why you'll find Finney listed in the "Really Bad Theology" category of my bookmarks, and in the "Unorthodox" wing of The Hall of Church History.



by Phillip R. Johnson. All rights reserved.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 02:29 PM

First and foremost your continual speaking against The lord's anointed are one's of ignorance or willful blasphemy and neither is Good, but either or, is forgivable my father is the father of the lord Jesus Christ

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 02:34 PM

oh, finney is lord's anointed.



that in itself is outrageous :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 02:35 PM

Ro 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

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