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Are Babies Born Sinless?
Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 08:46 PM

It has been claimed on this Forum that Babies are Born Sinless.



I Disagree and Scripture states Differently.



I am not going to Repost all those Scripture Verses pertaining to Original Sin but will Instead ask this Question:



If a Baby is Born Sinless and if No One will be able to Enter Heaven with Sin on their Soul�then what if that baby were to Die just Days after being Born? There is No Way that Two Day Old Baby could Sin�so that baby will have Died SINLESS.



So�being Sinless and thus Having No Sin on their Soul�that Baby will go Straight to Heaven�Right? Logic says�YES!



That bad part with this Scenario is that Jesus� Sacrifice was not NEEDED in this Case. Can you see anything Wrong with This Picture?



Also if Babies are Born Sinless�then out of The Billions of babies Born since God Created this World�you would Think that ONE Child was able to Avoid Sinning? Say that child of a family that was Shipwrecked and the Parents died when that child was Five Years Old.



So�Ella��Come On Down!�



�Spin that Magic that you do so well!�

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Are Babies Born Sinless?
Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 08:50 PM

Of course!!!!!...........

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 09:52 PM

MY GOODNESS! of course, you can post what you please, BUT why do you guys keep posting the same old same old about babies born sinless, the elect and chosen, justification, and grace? Is it becasue you really don't even understand your own church's doctrine> Or is it that you are not yourself sure of your own false doctrine that you belief?

I can't believe how many times this same topic has been discussed and you keep asking and posting the same thing over and over... makes me wonder if you turly understand your own religous doctrines and I know you don't understand spiritually what God has to say..

Does your church teach you anything about Jesus Christ and the kingdom to come?... because I sure have not seen one post from any of you speaking about the spiritual knowledge you have learned about God or Jesus, nothing but your church doctrines which are FALES and do not line up with God's word.

Maybe if you READ God's word for yourself you will find out if babies are born sinless...unbelievable, that you say you're saved and born again and haven't spoken onw word about the goodness of God or Jesus working in your life... nothing but your fale doctrien of the Xatholic and Reformed church which goes no where but around in circles... you can only say so much about the same topic no matter how many times you change the words around, you're still asking and talking about thesame thing and getting the same answers going nowhere!

If babies are born in sin why did Jesus always find time to bless the children and compare the kingdom of God to children as our example? Or do you even understand this?...

when will you spiritually grow up, and stop being so carnal

minded and immature christians still drinking milk and eating spiritual baby food not growing at all in the things of God...:rolleyes::zzzz: boooooooring!:zzzz::laugh:

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 12:10 AM

Ella, love your post.

I agree with you! :applause:

Blessings!

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 04:32 AM

Ella,



So you are saying that that Baby (the One that Died Sinless) did not need Christ in Order to Enter Heaven?

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 07:08 AM

Arch, all one need do is ask the lord?



Yes the baby would go to heaven.



Romans 7:1 � Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

7 � What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

14 � For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 08:12 AM

HEH?

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 08:18 AM

That Baby...in that Scenario...Died Sinless and therefore went Straight to Heaven.



It Did Not NEED Christ's Salvific Sacrifice!!



So that Means That Christ did not DIE for All Mankind!



That is Not What Scripture Says.



Scripture says that All are Born Into Sin!



Scripture Says that ALL need Christ's Sacrifice in Order to Be Saved.



Babies are NOT Born Sinless...you Delude yourself by believing that.



And Worst...you Change The Gospel by Doing So!

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 08:24 AM

Well arch or the possibility is that you are under the traditions of men.



The bible does not teach that sin is in a man to start with, sin is an action just as faith is.

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 08:27 AM

PJ,



Do you agree that if that baby had been born sinless and Died...it would have gone to Heaven without need of Jesus?

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 08:37 AM

I believe the baby would have gone to heaven because of Jesus.

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