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Posted : 4 Jan, 2012 10:14 AM

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.

If you point these things out to the brothers and sisters, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished on the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives� tales; rather, train yourself to be godly. 8 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance. That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

... Command and teach these things. Be diligent in these matters; give yourself wholly to them, so that everyone may see your progress. Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers. I Timothy 4

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Posted : 4 Jan, 2012 01:41 PM

I agree sister. And with that being said, I must tell you that this tongues teaching is not of God. It is not found in Scripture anywhere and is not in any way connected to prayer of any sort no matter what man teaches.



It is purely a doctrine that is more pagan than anything but people like the way it sounds when being told no matter how funny it is to the ears.





Good thread, sister.





May the Lord of Clarity and light deeply indwell your heart and fill it with love in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.





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Posted : 4 Jan, 2012 02:10 PM

Christians today are driven by the same force that Acts describes "Ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you." Acts 1:8

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Posted : 4 Jan, 2012 09:08 PM

In the modern church settings i hardly see any of the such thing work unless it is with the occasional shout of an "amen" in churches today.

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Posted : 4 Jan, 2012 09:29 PM

This thread nor is the scripture passage I posted is not about tongues ...wonder where you got that idead from? becasue it sure ain't what the passages is about.

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Posted : 4 Jan, 2012 10:33 PM

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.



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That pretty much sums up the tongues prayer language ideology sister.



As one person said: "When a person denounces everything Christian faith is based upon, and give no biblically solutions we must them start questioning that person's motives, intent, and purpose as we are taught, otherwise, we will becaome deceived and find ourselves caught up in their false believes and doctrines."



I suggest you take that person's advice, sister. :winksmile:

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Posted : 4 Jan, 2012 11:10 PM

Agapeton you are a good example of your response....

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Posted : 5 Jan, 2012 04:20 AM

^^^ Exhibit "A". ^^^

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Posted : 5 Jan, 2012 05:54 AM

The father speaks Clearly



The lord speaks clearly



The Holy Spirit listens perfectly and speaks perfectly.



Man must learn to do the same and he can.

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Posted : 5 Jan, 2012 07:39 AM

agapeton, pj is right you are a perfect example of someone decieved, you must not know the lord very long! i am praying for you! I said before that it only takes repentence and faith to be saved, however repentence does not mean just saying lord forgive me, it implys a change of heart towards sin! You dont say one word abpout repentence when you are hollering about the fact that we can continue in sin! And you say we are the ones who have departedf rom the faith and follow demons, it is obviosly demonic to say that Jesus sufferd as he did and gave his life as he did for our SINS then say it was a free pas for us to live in sin! No he did that so we didnt have to lpay the price of the sins from before we got saved and when we wmess us we can still find grace but if your saved you dont want to keep sinning you hate sin! If you dont hate sin then your not saved agapeton! Ypiu have never stated you r position on this all you have said to me or this is how I took it, ids that Jesus paid the price so we could sin and live in it if we want to! and that we dont have to keep the ten commandmens , tell me can a christian then lie, comit adultry and fornicate and murder and worshp idols since you knw the ten commandmens are abolished~!!!! WOOOO HOOOO LES PARTY ORGY AT AGPETONS HOUSE!!:ROFL::ROFL:



ok that wa inapropraite but I was making apoint, first off if I can sin I still dont want to bro! I j Jesus did 9bu he didnt) die so that we could still continue in sin I stil dont want to do it! OH a heart change like I said, thgats what I have a change of heart towards sin, have you had that change agapeton? If not I suggest you fing an alter and get saved

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Posted : 5 Jan, 2012 08:28 AM

Elisha, I don't know where you are coming up with all of this or why for that matter but if Jesus died for us so thAt we now have direct access to our father through him and the belief of his atoning blood for remission of sin, then why would we need a special type of prayer language that we can't understand to communicate with God?



What does that say exactly? God's Spirit can indwell us but needs a "coded" language to speak to himself so that the devil can't ruin his plans?





Seriously, sister. God defeated death no matter what the enemy tried to do and now we limit his ability to be hindered by this same enemy when it comes to our words being spoken to him?





Where is there any sort of evidence that this tongues prayer language exist in light of the whole context of Scripture of how & where it originated from?



If there is no proof of it within the context of the Bible, then it is to be discounted. No?

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