As accordance with scriptures pertaining to marital relationships and especially in Ephesians 5, the man is the head of the household, ordained and appointed by God. Thus, it is the man's responsibility and duty to set the tone and path to make sure HE satisfies the needs of his wife... and the wife is to respond in kind toward him, and they both are then sbumitted one to another and sexually satisified. Therefore, why is it that MOST ALL men think and feel that it the WOMAN'S duty and responsibility to satisfy him sexually, and that sex is ONLY for the satifying of the man without concerns of the woman..., and that he ALONE is to be satistifed... when God has created this beautful romantic intimate connection for the pleasure of BOTH the man and the woman to enjoy and please each other?
I Corinthians 7:1 Now for the matters you wrote about: �It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.�
2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.
3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.
5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
Proverbs 5:15 Drink water from your own cistern, running water from your own well. Should your springs overflow in the streets, your streams of water in the public squares? Let them be yours alone, never to be shared with strangers.May your fountain be blessed, and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19. A loving doe, a graceful deer� may herbreasts satisfy you always, may you ever be intoxicated with her love. Why, my son, be intoxicated with another man�s wife? Why embrace the bosom of a wayward woman?
21 For your ways are in full view of the LORD, and he examines all your paths. The evil deeds of the wicked ensnare them; the cords of their sins hold them fast. For lack of discipline they will die, led astray by their own great folly.
Donna said: WHAT !!!! are you kidding me, have we fallen to the ways of the world disgusting such a topic on a "christian site"
Ellas says: Donan, Donna, So, you're saying this topic HOSULD NOT BE DISCUSSED just becasue it is on a Chritsina site???. Sorry but God created sex, not the world.And if discussing such a topic on a Christian makes it disgusting, then we have need to take these topics out of the Bible.
Donna said: This is discussion between a husband and a wife not a bunch of singles.
Ella says: Why is this topic such a discussion between a husband and a wife, and "not a bunch of single?"... who put such a prohibition on this topic that singles who hope to get married are unable to discuss such a topic?... Is there a scripture passage that would indicate such? No, and if God can discuss such a topice in His Word, why are singles prohibited from also discussing whatevert is written in His Word of Truth? What is your problem? And what topic should not be discussed on a Chritsian singles site? is it the topic on sex?... or the topic on marriage? or is it the topic on the role, responsibilites and duty of married men in a marriage to his wife according to what God speaks?
Donna siad: I am sorry if this offends people, but these thought belong in no "christians " head.
Ella says: What is the offense? And what thoughts are you referring to that don't belong in "no Chritsian's head?" Splain yourself?
Donna said: Proverbs 4:23, Keep your heart with all diligence, For out of it spring the issues of life.
Ellas says: This topic is about the ISSUES OF LIFE, that take place when two people get married, and are the causes of many divorces in marriages.. therefre, if the heart keeps God's spiritual principles diligently in mind BEFORE marriage takes place, maybe the divorce rate amonsg so-called christian after they marry will go down... and everyone who confesses and professes to be a Christian will know what to expect and what not to expect from each other, and will know HWAT GOD EXPECTS OUT OF BOTH THE MAN AND THE WOMAN!
it is bad enough christian men are addicted to pornography in the world with all they do to entice men to look lustfully on a women. I am saying now you have to go and talk about sex to get "christians" thinking on sex. You should be edifying not leading men to think about sex.
Sex is a God given gift in the context of marriage, not for a bunch of singles to be discussing on a web site.
We are to act as children of the king Ella, not discussing sex as the world does that is what i am saying.
Romans 10:14 "How then shall they call upon Him in whom they have not believed?. And how shall they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?
If it is in the Bible it must be preached, We are to preach the whole Bible not part of the Bible that we like, and leave out the ones that we don't like .
We are to preach it all over the world, there is no safe place for Satan to hide even on THE FORUM.
Donna said: it is bad enough christian men are addicted to pornography in the world with all they do to entice men to look lustfully on a women. I am saying now you have to go and talk about sex to get "christians" thinking on sex. You should be edifying not leading men to think about sex.
Ella says: Donna, christian men are additcted to many sexual immoral things they should not be addicted to.. but this is not because someone brings up the subject, but because they have NOT BEEN TRULY CONVERTED AS BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN MEN COMMITTED TO CHRIST ALONE! DYING TO THEIR FLESH, and its also because no one cares to discusss the truth of the matter.
Many Christin men have NOT died to the LUST of their FLESH in many things, it has nothing to do with bringing up a subject that is to be discussed otherwise, God would not have given out warnings and His perspectives on the subject matter.
If this is the case, should we not also talk about or bring up drigs and alcohol, in case someone might start drinking or doing drugs again, who ahd stop doing them? C'mon, Get real...
Chritsina men think about sex without any help, but not many talk about it with anyone, and no one talks to them about their problem related to sex! God's word is edifying for ALL who will learn from it, and we are to LEARN EVERYTHING GOD HAS SO PLACED IN HIS WORD, for our Christian living.
Men are addicted to pornoraphy because THEY HAVE NOT OBEYED GOD'S COUNSEL about such sins, and out of selfish reasons, and many who are addicted to pornograpgy who are CHIRSTIANS and are MARRIAGE, have NEED to know what God's says about the matter as according to what is post in I Corinthians chapter 7, and Proverbs chapter 5. Spiritual education has never been not edifying, so what part of these passages do you find that is not edifying?... keeping silent to the matter sure isn't edifying, nor is it to seen as spiritual. Anything God has spoken HSOULD be discuss anywhere and and at anytime, if God said it, He means it, and that settles the matter, and you can't place your OWN PROHIBITIONS ON topics God has placed in His word...
This is the problem now, Chritsian are afraid to discuss the real deal about GOD's Word of Truth, and no one cares to talk about it or dscuss what God says in His word.
Marriages are broken everyday, because MEN are in disobedience and bondage, becasue they don't know the truth as to what is written in His word, and no one will discuss the truth of the matter with them.
Marriages are broken everyday because men are selfish, and do not know that as head of his household, it is HIS RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY, to love his wife as himself as God commands, and meet her needs emotionally, spiritually, mentally physically and financially, as God has commanded and ordained. And God has so commanded the wife to respond to her husband in like manner with respect.
Donna said: Sex is a God given gift in the context of marriage, not for a bunch of singles to be discussing on a web site.
Ella says: That's correct for MARRIAGE, and if a man doesn't know what GOD EXPECTS OF HIM IN A MRRIAGE while he is single BEFORE MARRIAGE, how will he learn during marriage, if he enters a marriage with such great expectations of his wife than what he should have, not knowing that HE IS THE ONE WHO SET THE TONE AND INTIMACY CONNECTION IN THE MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP. Single men on this very forum, think women are to meet their sexual needs even BEFORE AMRRIAGE, and many women on this very forum buy into this lie of the devil becasue she wants a MAN TO BE HER HUSBAND.
Donna said: We are to act as children of the king Ella, not discussing sex as the world does that is what i am saying.
Ella says: You're right, and the King has provided his children with important information in His OWN MANUEL for relationships in marriage to be successful, that He expect us to carry out.
I would that you please point out what part of these passages related to this topic is NOT TO BE DISCUSSED ON THIS FORUM OR ANYWHERE?
If said it in God's word, who determines that God 's Word is not to be discussed for others to learn... and what other parts of His Word are we not to inform people about that God has inckuded in His Word for our learning?
Ignorance of God's Truth is SIN, and everything that is written in His Holy Word, has no limitations for discussions for edifying and learning for godly Christian lving.
If a person doesn't know the truth about what God says, BEFORE marriage, do they wait UNTIL AFTER MARRIAGE to learn when its too late to learn?
Again I ask you why is disxussing the husband's responsibility and duty when t comes to intimacy not edifying FOR YOU, since Paul discusses it clearly in I Corinthians 7, and makes it plain and clear... and Solomon discusses it in chapters 4-8, as well as to God's expectations of the man when it comes to his own wife in a marriage...
What part of these passage DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND AND CONSIDER NOT EDIFYING for godly Christian living. And how many men do you know who think the woman is to meet his needs of intimacy?? And how many women do you know who say differently, and the marriage has fallen aprt becasue the man says his wife is not being intimate with him and he blames her for his sins of adultery?
And how many women do you know who are in pain and tears whose husband has gone otu and found another woman to replace her affection?
Men's thoughts life should be under the authority of God, and not his own lusts and desires for fulfillment... this is called selfishness and God said this is not what marriage relationships is all about... the marriage bed is 'POSE TO BE UNDEFILED! But because men put the responsibility on the woman in those things HE IS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AS IN HIS HEADSHIP postion bringing together he and his wife as ONE, this is in violation of God"s Word of Truth. Thus, we have Christians getting divorced...
So what your fear of discussing this topic? that's whats of interest to me...
I agree Scott, and Jesus has already said, if THIS GOSPEL, is not preached, the rock will cry out! And He also warns that WE who have the gospel in our mouths are to teach it and preach it from Jersulem, Judea, and Samaria, on the forum across the internet, from the south to the north, to the est to the west, to everyone who will hear. And if we DO NOT, we will be held accountable on that great judgemnet day, becasue we have not done the first things first that we have been calle dto do for the kingdom of God.
Men and women have need to know their spiritual resonsibilites to God and to each other in marraige realtionships as God has designed and is written in His word of Truth, and maybe this will stop the divorce rates in the Christain community which is higher that in the world
And of those who say they know God's truth yet, are spiritual cowards to tell it... PLEASE don't try to hinder me,just HOLD MY MULE AND GET OUT OF MY WAY, AND LET ME TELL-IT!... I've got a big mouth and will tell it no matter who like it:yay::dancingp:
1 Corinthians 7:1~ Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to [ touch ] a woman.(KJV)
*** Touch ~ G680 ~
1) to fasten one's self to, adhere to, cling to
a) to touch
b) of carnal intercourse with a women or cohabitation
c) of levitical practice of having no fellowship with heathen practices. Things not to be touched appear to be both women and certain kinds of food, so celibacy and abstinence of certain kinds of food and drink are recommended.
d) to touch, assail anyone
*** Ima not so sure this Scripture verse is about sexual...however the Greek word does denote a carnal...um...course with a women or co-habitation as listed in (B)...jus sayin...and in (C)...the appears to be consists of celibacy & abstinence...
Ima not so sure Yall that is about sexual as it is bout the "Levitical" Practices and Restrictions...Hebrew men were NEVER to touch a women Not there own...
I understand the discussion to be bout the mans place in the marriage and how he "should" be in the marriage...I prefer Eph 5 for instruction on this matter...
As Scott shared...as Christians we "must" examine the entire Bible and Preach the entire Bible...not exactly what he shared but close enough...
I prefer these types of Topics to be discussed...women teaching women and man teaching man...unfortunatly or fortunatly...that doesnt always happen in a open forum...xo
Donna, sorry but I'm not a "so-called anything.. I AM A HRISTIAN WOMAN OF GOD CALLED TO MINSITER HIS TRUTH...
No Donna, the shame and disgrace is with you being used by the devil to try and prevent the truth of God's word from reaching the people. And what you're talking about has to do with YOUR OWN personal thoughts and opinions, and is not related to what God has to say, but there is hope if you would read what God has already written about sexual intmacy in marriage relationships...
I suppose you can't come to grips with... The sex part, for whatevre your reasoning may be... but if we're free in Jesus Christ we should be free indeed in all things that are according to God's word...may be you should explain what Paul mean in verses
So Donna, what does Paul mean in these passages?
I Corinthians 7:1 Now for the matters you wrote about: �It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.�
2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.
And Donna what is Paul speaking about here in these passages?...4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.
Also, Donna, please explain these words of Paul...5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
Donna, Paul is speaking something very important to the singles on this frum and everywhere. Maybe you can explain what he means in this passages, and pay close attention to the pharse "BURN WITH PASSION" so waht is Paul speaking about when he says burn with passion?... 8 Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
