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Have the Americans forgotten the name(s) of YHWH !
Posted : 9 Mar, 2012 04:38 PM
Jer 23:19 Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked.
Jer 23:20 The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly.
Jer 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
Jer 23:22 But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.
Jer 23:23 Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?
Jer 23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.
Jer 23:25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.
Jer 23:26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;
Jer 23:27 Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.
I had to give some context,as i want to focus upon the PROPHESY in verse 27.
In America,Why do we not teach the name(s) of YHWH,are they not of any importance these days
If the name(s) of YHWH are not important,then why did Yeshua tell His people that in discipling others,we are to teach YHWH and His names as revealed in the Word of YHWH.
The name(s) of YHWH as He has revealed them to His people
The Literal Translation:
Mat 28:18 And coming up Jesus talked with them, saying, All authority in Heaven and on earth was given to Me.
Mat 28:19 Then having gone, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things, whatever I commanded you. And, behold, I am with you all the days until the completion of the age. Amen.
Youngs Translation:
Mat 28:18 And having come near, Jesus spake to them, saying, `Given to me was all authority in heaven and on earth;
Mat 28:19 having gone, then, disciple all the nations, (baptizing them--to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all, whatever I did command you,) and lo, I am with you all the days--till the full end of the age.'
WHat does the name(s) of YHWH reveal about Himself !
Have the Americans forgotten the name(s) of YHWH !
Posted : 9 Mar, 2012 05:22 PM
God's personal name was so sacred to most Jews that they didn't want to speak it or even write it for fear of violating the commandment in Leviticus 22:32 � "You shall not take the name of YHWH your God in vain, for YHWH will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain," (Exodus 20:7) and "You shall not profane My holy name, but I will be made holy [m'kaddesh] among the children of Israel. I am YHWH who makes you holy [YHWH-M'Kaddesh]." (TS98)
Thus, the Jewish practice was to read "Adonai" (Hebrew "Adonay") Adonai in place of "YHWH". "Adonai" means "Master" or "Sovereign Ruler" and generally denotes authority and exalted position. And whenever the Hebrew compound name "YHWH Adonay" appeared, they read "Adonay Elohim" ("Adonai-Elohim") to avoid the duplication of "Adonay" (The name "Elohim" contains the concept of might, creative power, rulership, and sovereignty. It denotes the power and pre-eminence [conspicuous glory] of God).
To remind the reader that he was not to pronounce the name "YHWH" (YHWH) but instead was to read the word as "Adonay" (Adonai), they placed the vowels of Adonay (a, o, a) under the Tetragrammaton YHWH, thus creating YaHoWaH. The first translators who transcribed YHWH's name had no reason to believe that the vowels of YaHoWaH yielded an imprecise designation, so they transcribed it as "YaHoWaH", just as it was written in the Hebrew Scriptures.
Have the Americans forgotten the name(s) of YHWH !
Posted : 9 Mar, 2012 05:40 PM
Interesting thread, brother George. I don't know if this would help any of you topic, but if we look to the Scriptures and see that the Lord Jesus Christ told the disciples to follow and teach all that He said and baptizing them in the name of Adonai ( Father), and of Yeshua (Son), and of the Ruach HaKadesh (Holy Spirit).
In essence, it actually translates as the name of the Lord Jesus (or Yeshua if you prefer) Christ (the anointed).
That is why Peter said that people should be baptized under his name in Acts 2:38. Otherwise, if Peter told them to be baptized under Jesus' name instead of the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, then he and the rest of the disciples disobeyed the Lord Jesus in that verse.
Have the Americans forgotten the name(s) of YHWH !
Posted : 9 Mar, 2012 06:14 PM
Elohim = "God" (plural) as in the Creator: In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth (Genesis 1:1).
El Elyon = "God (singular) Most High": And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; now he was a priest of [El Elyon] God the Most High. And He blessed him and said, ''blessed be Abram of God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth; and blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand (Genesis 14:18-20).
El Roi = "God Who Sees": Then she called the name of the LORD who spoke to her, 'You are a [El Roi] God who sees'; for she said, 'Have I even remained alive here after seeing Him?' Therefore the well was called Beer-lahai-roi [well of the living one who sees me] (Genesis 16:13-14).
El Shaddai = "God Almighty" or "God the All-Sufficient One"; the entomology is so ancient that Biblical scholars do not agree on the meaning of this name: I AM El Shaddai. Live in my presence, be perfect, and I shall grant a covenant between myself and you, and make you very numerous. And Abram bowed to the ground (Genesis 17:2-3).
Yahweh = found in Scripture as the consonants YHWH, known as the "Tetragramaton" is God's holy Covenant name. The letters form a word or words from the verb "to be" and most scholars translate it as "I AM who I AM" or "I will be who I will be", or "the Self-Existent One: Moses said to God, 'Look, if I go to the Israelites and say to them, The God of your ancestors has sent me to you, and they say to me, 'What is His name?' what am I to tell them?' God said to Moses, 'I AM He who is. Tell them that I AM who I am sent you (Exodus 3:13-14).
Adonai = "Lord" (Note: LORD, all in capital letters is a substitution out of reverence for God's covenant name "Yahweh"): Then Moses said to the LORD, 'Please Lord, I have never been eloquent, neither recently nor in time past, nor since you have spoken to your servant; for I am slow of speech and slow of tongue. And the LORD said to him, 'Who has made men's mouth? Or who makes him dumb or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the LORD?' (Exodus 4:10-12, NAB).
Yahweh-jireh = "Yahweh will provide" or "I AM will provide": But the angel of the LORD called to him from heaven and said, 'Abraham, Abraham!' And he said, 'Here I am.' And he said, 'Do not stretch out your hand against the lad, and do nothing to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, form Me.' Then Abraham raised his eyes and looked, and behind him he saw a ram caught up in the thicket by his horns; and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the place of his son. And Abraham called the name of that place [Yahweh-jireh]-The LORD will provide, as it is said to this day: On the Mountain Yahweh provides (Genesis 22:11-14).
Yahweh-rapha = "Yahweh who heals": If you will give earnest heed to the voice of Yahweh your God and do what He regards as right, if you pay attention to His commandments and keep all His laws, I shall never inflict on you any of the diseases that I inflicted on the Egyptians, for I am Yahweh your Healer [Yahweh-rapha] (Exodus 15:26).
Yahweh�nissi = "Yahweh My Banner": (after willing a battle with God's assistance ) Moses built an altar, and named it Yahweh is My Banner [Yahweh-nissi] ...(Exodus 17:16).
Yahweh-mekoddishkem = "Yahweh Who Sanctifies You": And Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying, 'But as for you, speak to the sons of Israel, saying, "You shall surely observe My Sabbaths; for this is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am Yahweh who sanctifies you [Yahweh-mekoddishkem]...(Exodus 31:12).
Yahweh-shalom = "Yahweh is Peace": He said, 'Alas, my Lord, Yahweh! Now I have seen the Angel of Yahweh face to face ' Yahweh answered, 'Peace be with you; have no fear; you will not die.' Gideon built an altar there to Yahweh and called it Yahweh is peace [Yahweh-shalom] (Judges 6:22-24).
Yahweh-sabaoth = "Yahweh of Hosts" (the "hosts" are the army of angels who serve God): Who is He, this king of glory? Yahweh of Hosts [Yahweh-saboath], He is the king of glory (Psalm 46:7, NJB); The LORD of Hosts [Yahweh-sabaoth] is with us; the God of Jacob is our stronghold (Psalms 22:10, NAB).
Yahweh-raah = "Yahweh My Shepherd": The LORD [Yahweh-raah] is my shepherd; I shall not want ... (Psalms 23:1, NAB).
Yahweh-tsidkenu = "Yahweh Our Saving Justice": Look, the days are coming, Yahweh declares, when I shall rise an upright Branch for David; He will reign as king and be wise, doing what is just and upright in the country. In his days Judah will triumph and Israel live in safety, and this is the name He will be called Yahweh-our-saving-justice [Yahweh-tsidkenu]
Have the Americans forgotten the name(s) of YHWH !
Posted : 9 Mar, 2012 06:49 PM
Hebrew Names of God Printer-Friendly Version
Adonai and Adonai Constructs given in the Tanakh
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Introduction
Adonai is the plural of Adon, meaning �Lord, Lord, LORD, master, or owner� (the word Adon derives from a Ugaritic word meaning �lord� or �father�). In the Tanakh, the word Adon can refer to men and angels as well as to the LORD God of Israel (e.g., Exodus 34:23). God is called the �Lord of lords�(Deuteronomy 10:17) and Psalm 8:1 mentions God as �YHVH our Lord.�
The plural form Adonai, like the plural form Elohim, is regularly used with singular verbs and modifiers, so it is best to construe the Name as an �emphatic plural� or �plural of majesty.�
When the plural is formed using a singular possessive ending (�my Lords�), it always refers to God, and occurs over 300 times in the Tanakh in this form.
The Masoretes ensured that the sacred Name of the LORD YHVH would not be taken in vain by putting the vowel marks for Adonai under the letters in the running text (ketiv). They did this to remind the reader to pronounce Adonai regardless of the consonants in the text (qere). However, Adon and Adonai also appear as Names of God in the Hebrew Masoretic text, and some of these will be listed here.
Lord
Adon. [basic form]
A title variously used to refer to men, angels, and to the true God of Israel, meaning �lord,
master, owner.� From the Ugaritic adn meaning "lord" or "father" and the Akkadian adannu, "mighty."
Lord; God; name used as a substitute for the sacred Tetragrammaton; emphatic form of �Adon (Isa. 6:1). Occurs 300 times in the Tanakh. The first use appears in Gen. 15:2 where Abram addresses God as �Adonai YHVH.�
The Lord GOD of hosts. (Tsava means army or host). This often appears with the prefixive Hey: ha-adon Adonai Tzeva�ot. References: Isa. 1:24; 3:1; 10:16, 33; 19:4; Mal. 3:1.
My Lord
Adoni.
My Lord (Psalm 110:1).
The Lord YHVH
Ha�adon Adonai.
The Lord God (Ex. 23:17, Ex. 34:23).
Our Lord
Adoneinu.
Our Lord (1 Sam. 16:16).
Our Lord
Adoneinu.
Our Lord. Spelling variant. Often used to refer to leaders (such as King David). References: 1 Sam. 25:14, 17; 1 Ki. 1:43, 47; Neh. 10:30; Ps. 8:2, 10.
The Lord of all the earth
Adon kol-ha'arets.
Lord of all the earth.
References: Jos. 3:11, 13; Ps. 97:5; Zech. 4:14; 6:5.
Great is our LORD and full of power; His wisdom is beyond
Have the Americans forgotten the name(s) of YHWH !
Posted : 9 Mar, 2012 07:58 PM
Mat 28:19 Then having gone, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Young's:
Mat 28:19 having gone, then, disciple all the nations, (baptizing them--to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
So, which name did Peter tell the people to be baptized in Acts 2:38, brother?
Young's:
Act 2:38 and Peter said unto them, `Reform, and be baptized each of you on the name of Jesus Christ, to remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit
Act 2:38 And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins
Now, if we are to look at the Hebrew meanings and imply things from the Greek, then we have to conclude that EVERYTIME that anyone was teaching and preaching in the book of Acts, they were actually preaching and teaching of the Logos of YHVH. Correct? And that Mamre of YHVH is none other than Adonai Yeshua/Yehoshua (Jesus/Joshua [Joshua seems to be the same name translated from the Old Testament into the New.) Ha-Mashiach.
So, how do we reconcile the fact that Paul not once had Jehoshua's name ever translated in the Greek texts to his proper name in Jewish as John, and a few other Gospel writers did with certain names?
Have the Americans forgotten the name(s) of YHWH !
Posted : 10 Mar, 2012 05:03 AM
AMEN!
I love the hebrew names of our Father and to meditate on His attributes is to know Him, like you stated POC. I used to have a prayer card that listed all the names and would thank the different names of YHWH in my prayers. He is my provider, my healer, my protector, my avenger, my lover, my creator. I am my beloved and He is mine.
In response to your question, have Americans forgot the name of YHWH? Well, I think Americans specifically, need a revelation of His HOLINESS. The fear of the L-d is the beginning of wisdom, therefore let it begin! I can't stand to see His name desecrated anymore. I can't stand how the false prophets speak in His name. I know they are deceived as I once was speaking words of prophecy in the name of YHWH. The Jews might be legalistic in honoring the law, but at least they honor the King of Glory, and treat His word and His name with utmost respect. :bow:
Have the Americans forgotten the name(s) of YHWH !
Posted : 10 Mar, 2012 05:59 AM
The major reason for the falling away of II Thessalonians 2: 3-4 is the arising, since sometime in the 19th century, of movements within Christianity to return to some parts of the Old Covenant. Dispensationalism or Christian Zionism is the most popular of these movements. Dispensationalists may say they fully accept the new Covenant and the Gospel of Christ, while honoring another house as the chosen people, and being proxies for them.
Although it tends to be anti-Jewish, Christian identity is another such movement - to return to the idea of the chosen people. Then there are the Hebrew Roots movement, the sacred name theology and several forms of Messianic Judaism. These last three movements seem to be gaining steam at the present time.
If it were not for these three movements, growing stronger now, there would be nothing wrong with studying the names of God. But there is something wrong in the worship of the name rather than the person of God.
What Scripture in the New Testament supports a worship of the Hebrew name of God?
The dialectic would say "Oh, no we are not worshipping the name of God in Hebrew, we are just honoring our brothers the Messianic Jews. Again, Matthew 23: 38 says "...your house is left unto you desolate." A Jew can come to Christ as an individual, giving up any claim to be of the chosen people because of his or her flesh. But to mix Christ with the Old Covenant is of the spirit of anti-Christ, and a Christian does not want to do that.
