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Why Do Some So oppose bible truth's?
Posted : 29 May, 2012 01:30 PM

The answer is Very simple:



It is in THE Hearing.....

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teach_ib

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Why Do Some So oppose bible truth's?
Posted : 29 May, 2012 07:17 PM

If they are not a Christian, the Holy Spirit will not reveal the meanings to them. Many people think there has to be more to salvation than asking for God to forgive your sins...they want to work at it.

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Posted : 29 May, 2012 08:52 PM

PJ-



1. Because they want to be right.



2. they don't want to admit that they have been believing the wrong things/people.



Ex. when one believes in Calvinism or any other type of branching away from what the Bible really means.



3. They pick verses they like and only follow those.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 12:07 PM

Here we go again bashing those evil calvinist. Where in the bible does it say if you speak in tongues and go to a pentecostal church you know all.



I am a calvinist, and this is what i believe. I believe that the Bible is the authoritative Word of God for faith and life. Every word is "God-breathed", inerrant, infallible and eternally preserved.



I believe there is one God in three persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. These three Divine Persons in the Godhead are distinct and yet equal in all respects, being of one essence.



I believe that God is the sovereign Creator and Ruler of the universe, sustaining and preserving all creation by His eternal counsel and Providence and directing all things to His everlasting glory.



I believe that our Lord Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh. He was born of the virgin Mary, suffered all the time he lived on earth, was crucified dead and buried. He rose from the dead, ascended into heaven, and is reigning at the right hand of God the father. He will come again to receive His church and to judge the world.



I believe that by the sin of our first parents, Adam and Eve, all mankind fell from their original righteousness and communion with God, making them enslaved to sin and to Satan. Being thus totally depraved in all parts of body and soul, mankind is in a state of sin and condemned by the just judgement of God.



I believe that mankind in a state of sin is saved from eternal condemnation by the grace of God alone, through repentance and faith alone in Jesus Christ who has satisfied the justice of God in the place of sinful men.



I believe that those truly converted to God by the Holy Spirit will be led by that same Spirit to a life of practical godliness, not according to the traditions of men but according to the Word of God as well as to prayer wherein adoration is given to God, sins are confessed, thanksgiving is tendered for His blessings and petitions made for His grace and favour.



I believe that the church is the body Christ and comprised of believers and their children, who by true faith are partakers of salvation through Jesus Christ. This church is distinguished by three marks: the pure preaching of the Word, the proper observance of the sacraments (Baptism and the Lord's Supper) and Christian discipline, and is ruled through the offices of Pastor, Elder and Deacon.



I believe that though physical death is God's judgement upon man's sin, the "sting of death" has been removed by salvation; upon death the Christian's soul (spirit) goes immediately to heaven to live in conscious communion with Christ. Those who die in their sins unsaved will also live and suffer in hell, in alienation from God. At the last day, at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, the bodies of both the saved and the unsaved will be reunited with their souls. All mankind will then be judged, and body and soul will enter their final state of eternal heavenly bliss or eternal punishment.





Please show me in scripture where any of this is incorrect.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 12:23 PM

Donna we have already been thru this.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 12:33 PM

and you can still not prove biblically what is wrong with what i believe.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 02:25 PM

There is nothing to prove, you either believe the word of God or you don't.



As the word of God as man's source it is clear to all that believe that reformation theology is the word of man, i do not have to prove, I have to believe the lord Jesus.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 02:58 PM

All you can give PJ is that you dislike the title "Reformed Theology" of "Calvinism". Once it gets deeper than that, you are confused.

Maybe a nap? Have a good evening PJ :)

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 03:02 PM

Your right about one thing pj you can prove nothing because you do not believe or know God's word. You believe what you hear man say is wrong. You believe false doctrine.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 03:27 PM

dljrn- I believe in everything you said also



Calvinism is a system of biblical interpretation taught by John Calvin.



I think when one reads the Bible the Holy Spirit will fill them and they will find the meanings of the Word. One doesn't need someone else to interpret for them.



I don't believe in Double Predestination( separating human race in two, one to an everlasting life and the other to hell. )



or Limited Atonement(Jesus died only for the elect.)



or Perseverance of the Saints

(You cannot lose your salvation. Because the Father has elected, the Son has redeemed, and the Holy Spirit has applied salvation, those thus saved are eternally secure.)



Well if you backtrack by free will and choose not to believe than you go to hell.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 03:30 PM

dljrn-



"Here we go again bashing those evil calvinist. Where in the bible does it say if you speak in tongues and go to a pentecostal church you know all."





I didn't say calvinists were evil nor did I say I belong to a pentecostal church or that I know it all.

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