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Does the unbelief of Some:
Posted : 30 May, 2012 02:50 PM

Romans 3:11 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?



Answer: no

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Does the unbelief of Some:
Posted : 30 May, 2012 03:08 PM

That's not Romans 3:11

I know you love doing this...but there is discussion of those verses in another thread on the first page. No reason to clutter up the board. Have a nice night PJ :)

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Does the unbelief of Some:
Posted : 30 May, 2012 03:10 PM

There is no biblical discussion only the opinion of some, it is vital for those that believe, to expose the error of those that oppose themselves and the lord.



Those that believe know the unbelief of some does not affect the faith of other's.

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Does the unbelief of Some:
Posted : 30 May, 2012 03:15 PM

Correct. If you don't believe, you don't believe.

If you do believe, you do believe. Great points PJ...not sure why we needed another thread but thank you anyway. Have a great night :)

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Does the unbelief of Some:
Posted : 30 May, 2012 03:18 PM

For those that believe.



Some try to delude other's by saying Roman's 3:11 apply's to all, if one study's it is obvious who is referred to in that context.

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Does the unbelief of Some:
Posted : 30 May, 2012 03:25 PM

Well since you haven't done this...let me make it plain for our readers....

3:9For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin

here is your context :)

both Jews and Greeks are under sin

3:11 No one understands; No one seeks for God

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 06:52 PM

Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Romans 3:5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)

Romans 3:6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?

Romans 3:7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

Romans 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Romans 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Romans 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.



So there it is altogether of course there is no difference between Jew or Greek in unbelief and yes it is understood those in unbelief did not seek after God nor understand him.



This is quoted from the psalms:



Ps 14:1� To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Ps 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

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Posted : 30 May, 2012 07:00 PM

It is very clear this phrase is associated with those that do not believe.



Ps 53:1 � To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Ps 53:2 God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God.

Ps 53:3 Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.



This is one instance of one group of people, and the Old testament illustrates example after of those that believed and sought the lord.

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Does the unbelief of Some:
Posted : 30 May, 2012 08:19 PM

Yes...well we were all born not believing...

You aren't really making a point. I already gave the context and show who the verse is talking about

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Does the unbelief of Some:
Posted : 30 May, 2012 08:49 PM

Does your unbelief cause me not to believe?



There is no point to make!



You either believe or you do not.



The proof is in the action.

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Does the unbelief of Some:
Posted : 30 May, 2012 08:52 PM

"Does your unbelief cause me not to believe?"

This question has nothing to do with anything I said in the other thread or this one. You need a longer nap. You wonder why I do not hardly respond anymore? It's because you never accurately say what I say. Have a good night PJ :)

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