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Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 08:15 AM

The continual excuse of some in the reference to context,to avoid the truth has no foundation and is sinking sand.

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 12:11 PM

Context is not an excuse. Rather context helps you know truth. I don't know anyone but you who argues that taking things out of context is okay.

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 12:33 PM

There is no context there is only faith and choose chosing choice ....... :ROFL:

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 01:15 PM

There is no context there is only faith and choose chosing choice .......



Typical mocking in total absnse of any faith.



Ryan in context how does context help any one understand your

name?



Context is not your issue with the context of Jn. 3:16.



The problem is simple you reject the truth.



You reject in context that all can believe.



You reject in context Jesus died for all



You reject in context his love for all.



Context is not your excuse or justification.

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 01:23 PM

John 3:16 does not talk about ability or inability to believe. It is simply stating those that believe will not perish but shall have eternal life.

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 01:26 PM

Amen Zao - and the Lord sends yet another soldier to the battle. Amen.

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 01:37 PM

Amen Zao







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Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 01:45 PM

"Ryan in context how does context help any one understand your name?"

In the context of what. This is not a good analogy. I can tell you my know and you will know my name. I can tell you that I died and if taken literally, you would think I actually died. However it could that I was told something hilarious. So we see, it's more important that we know what is meant by what is said than simply just knowing what is said.



" Context is not your issue with the context of Jn. 3:16."

If you would like to go back and look through my posts where I have explained my issue, you will clearly see that my issue is with people ripping the verse out of it's context. That and changing the intent of words. For instance, "whosoever" fits in there perfectly. I have no beef with that word being used. I just think it causes complications when people try to take that word and say, "See? Whosoever can be saved." When in reality, that is adding something that is not actually in the text. What the text really says is that whosoever believes, will be saved. That's an accurate representation without adding a new meaning.



" You reject in context that all can believe."

All are free to choose whatever their heart's desire is. However, the desire of everyone's heart is evil. So understanding that, then one realizes that all cannot actually believe. If people could, then their salvation would be thanks to them. Scripture teaches that it's all a work of God.



" You reject in context Jesus died for all"

No, I reject your theory on what that exactly means. Jesus death is certainly for all. However, it was only to save some. That some is not some group that is just extra special or done anything right. That group is nothing more than a group that God chose to grant grace to.



" You reject in context his love for all."

No I do not. I just reject your placing God in a box and saying that He must love all in the same fashion or He is not God. God isn't who you think He should be. He just is who He is.



" Context is not your excuse or justification."

And context has not been your friend on this board. I recommend you quit watching TBN televangelists and just taking their word and start opening your bible. I mean that sincerely.

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 01:46 PM

I can tell you my name*

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 10:29 PM

Here is PJ's appeal to context a few days ago



PJ said: "By your actions and word you have yet to agree with the truth behind those context's "



Seems context matters only when P.J. says so. :laugh:

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Posted : 4 Aug, 2012 09:31 AM

"Ryan in context how does context help any one understand your name?"



In the context of what. This is not a good analogy. I can tell you my know and you will know my name. I can tell you that I died and if taken literally, you would think I actually died. However it could that I was told something hilarious. So we see, it's more important that we know what is meant by what is said than simply just knowing what is said.



Of course it, for many use this one word and try to change truth.



We are not to know what was meant by what was said, as we are to believe the word of God and then comes the knowing.



The former is coming from the outside in.



Believing is from the inside out.





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"Ryan in context how does context help any one understand your name?"



In the context of what. This is not a good analogy. I can tell you my know and you will know my name. I can tell you that I died and if taken literally, you would think I actually died. However it could that I was told something hilarious. So we see, it's more important that we know what is meant by what is said than simply just knowing what is said.







" Context is not your issue with the context of Jn. 3:16."



If you would like to go back and look through my posts where I have explained my issue, you will clearly see that my issue is with people ripping the verse out of it's context. That and changing the intent of words. For instance, "whosoever" fits in there perfectly. I have no beef with that word being used. I just think it causes complications when people try to take that word and say, "See? Whosoever can be saved." When in reality, that is adding something that is not actually in the text. What the text really says is that whosoever believes, will be saved. That's an accurate representation without adding a new meaning.



I have never disagreed with that, for there is no faith without believing.



The deception is in some that proclaim that man can not believe.



All that are on the earth have the ability to believe.



" You reject in context that all can believe."



All are free to choose whatever their heart's desire is. However, the desire of everyone's heart is evil. So understanding that, then one realizes that all cannot actually believe. If people could, then their salvation would be thanks to them. Scripture teaches that it's all a work of God.



Yes I reject reformation theology



I would also add that all desire evil is another manipulation of scripture.



No believer accepts the pride in the statement when they believed they saved them self, that is just another smoke screen.



Believing is never a work of God it is man's responsibility.



" You reject in context Jesus died for all"



No, I reject your theory on what that exactly means. Jesus death is certainly for all. However, it was only to save some. That some is not some group that is just extra special or done anything right. That group is nothing more than a group that God chose to grant grace to.



No I do not reject the word of God, I reject the manipulation of reformation theology to alter the truth of God's word.





" You reject in context his love for all."



No I do not. I just reject your placing God in a box and saying that He must love all in the same fashion or He is not God. God isn't who you think He should be. He just is who He is.



I do not think as you say this truth, that is what you do.



I believe my father is love just as he is stated, and he love is not a respecter of person's.



Yes he is love just as he said.



" Context is not your excuse or justification."



And context has not been your friend on this board. I recommend you quit watching TBN televangelists and just taking their word and start opening your bible. I mean that sincerely.



You can sum this last response very clearly Ryan you deny any biblical principles with this bold, arrogant, bold lie you have made in this last statement, and glorifying satan with it.

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