Thread: "This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
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"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : 18 Aug, 2013 10:32 AM
2 days before his crucifixion Jesus gave the famous Mount of Olives sermon prophecies on April 1 AD 33. The prophecies in this sermon are recorded in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21:5-37.
In Matthew 24;1,2, Mark 13;1,2 and Luke 21:5,6 Jesus prophesies that the present Jewish Temple will be completely destroyed.
Then in Matthew 24:3 the discipleas asked Jesus {*2*} questions {*1*} "When will this happen? {Or when will the Jewish Temple be destroyed} and {*2*} "What will be the sign of your Coming and the End of the Age?"
Jesus answered question number {*1*} in Matthew 24:34; Mark 13:30 and Luke 21:32 where Jesus said "This generation {April AD 33 to October AD 70} will not pass away untill all these things have happened." "All these things that happened" in September to October AD 70 concerning the destruction of the Temple and events just before this took place; are recorded **ONLY** in Luke 21:20-24: Jesus prophesied, "When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the country not enter the city {It took the Roman army about 6 days to completely encircle Jerusalem} For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.... There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. They will fall by the sword and will taken as prisoners to all the nations, Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled." The times of the Gentiles ended on June 7th 1967 when the Jews took complete control of Jerusalem after 1897 years of Gentile rule.
All of the other prophecies in the Olivet Sermon of Jesus have obviously nothing to do with the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 and only refers to the Tribulation during the 1260-day Great Tribulation immediately before the 2nd Coming of Jesus and events that will take place on the Last Day at the 2nd Coming of Jesus such as Matthew 24:9-14, Matthew 24:29-31 and Matthew 25:31-46:
Matthew 24:3,9-13: The disciples asked Jesus, �What will be the sign of your Coming and the *END OF THE AGE*?? Jesus answered�.. {During the 1260-day Great Tribulation} �Then *YOU* will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and *YOU will be hated by all nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the Faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of *MOST* will grow cold,{THE GREAT APOSTASY} but he {The Called, Chosen & Faithful-Rev 17:14b} who stands firm to the *END will be saved. This gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to *ALL NATIONS* {This did not occur in AD 70!}, and then the *END will come!�
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, �All authority in heaven and on *EARTH has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!�
THE HARVEST IS THE END OF THE AGE!
Matthew 13:39-43: Jesus says, �The Harvest is the *END OF THE AGE and the harvesters are *ANGELS*. As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the *END OF THE AGE*. The Son of Man will send out His *ANGELS*, and they will weed out of His kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. *THEN the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father!�
I Corinthians 15:22-24: �For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ the firstfruits, then when He comes, those who belong to Him. Then the **END** will come, when He hands over the Kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.� And so when Jesus comes again at the *END OF THE AGE* He will hand over the Kingdom to God the Father!
Mark 13:10 Jesus says, �The *AGE TO COME* is Eternal Life!�I Timothy 6:19: In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the *COMING AGE*, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life!�
"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : 18 Aug, 2013 10:33 AM
Events in the Olivet Prophecies which obviously did not take place in AD 70!!
Matthew 24:29-31: Jesus says, �Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.� {Luke 21:28 adds �When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.�} Then the nations will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud {7TH & LAST} *TRUMPET* CALL and they will gather *His elect* from the 4 winds {Mark 13:27b adds:} �from the ends of the earth {Saints on earth} to the ends of the Heavens {Saints in Heaven}!!� JESUS WILL COME AGAIN WHEN THE *7TH* ANGEL SOUNDS THE LOUD *7TH* AND *LAST* TRUMPET CALL OF GOD. Rev 11:15a, 18: �The *7TH* angel sounded his trumpet� and the time has come for judging the dead and for rewarding your servants the prophets and saints.� {See Rev 22:12; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Matt 25:31-46 & Rev 20:11-15}
Matt 25:31-34,41: Jesus says, �*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory,{On the Last Day} and all the angels with Him {See Matt 24:29-31}, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another��He will put His sheep on His right and the goats on the left. *THEN the King {Jesus} will say to those on His right, �Come you who are blessed by My Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... *THEN He will say to those on His left, �Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire!�:angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel:
"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : 18 Aug, 2013 10:47 AM
The phrase "World without end" is not in God's Word.
Matthew 4:8-10 The devil took Jesus to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. "All this I will give you." he said "if you fall down and worship me."
I John 5:19: We know that we are the children of God, an that the whole world is under the control of the evil one."
John 18:36: Jesus says, "My Kingdom is NOT OF THIS WORLD. If it were My servants would fight."
Hebrews 11:13- "All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised, they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. And they admitted they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of they country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a better country *A HEAVENLY ONE*. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a City for them. {The New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth!}
The Satanic Roman Catholic Preterists believe that everything in Matthew 24 and 25 and in Revelation already took place in AD 70 which is of course completely ridiculous. The Roman Catholic Preterists believe that the Satanic Popes will usher in Peace on the earth and the Roman Catholics will then rule the world in the present evil earth which will last for ever and ever???
And as usual the sacred Word of God completely contradicts this Satanic belief:
2 Peter 3:3,4,8-13: In the Last Days scoffers will come...They will say, :Where is this coming He {Jesus} promised?"....But do not forget this one thing dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a 1,000 years, and a 1,000 years are like a day!!!!!!! The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise. as some {Preterists} understand slowness....But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be burned up.....That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise we {All true Christians} are looking forward to a New Heaven and a New Earth, the home of righteousness."
Revelation 21:1-4: Then I saw a New Heaven and a New Earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the Throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making EVERYTHING NEW!!"
"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : 19 Aug, 2013 02:19 PM
Notice the logical leap that this man makes in order to retain his speculation. He says, "All of the other prophecies in the Olivet Sermon of Jesus have obviously nothing to do with the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 "
Obviously? Yet look at the sequence in the chapter leading up to vs. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation (the whole multitude of people living at the same time, in a definite, given period) will not pass away till all these things taken together take place.
So, Jesus clearly tells them that from vs. 4-33 the answer to their question, "when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? "
All of these things will be in THIS GENERATION. That it was Jesus said. Period.
Now, let's examine this....... Why would Jesus prophecy of the destruction of Jerusalem at the end of the chapter immediately preceding this one.( Chapter23 and then open chapter 24 talking of the destruction of the temple in Jerussalem (which is what prompted the disciples question) and then precede to answer the question with some prophecy that would happen thousands of years later?
Modern " prophetic interpreters" would tell you that these passages mean little or nothing to the actual hearers ( the ones asking the question) because the text deals with matters that would take place 2,000+ years later. Does that really make any sense at all given the context?
So, the only thing that is "obvious" is that this OP has no clue what he is talking about and has to perform contextual gymnastics in order to bend this passage to make it mean what he wants it to mean. Period!
"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : 19 Aug, 2013 08:37 PM
All of these things will be in THIS GENERATION. That it was Jesus said. Period.
We are living in the 14th Generation...the same Generation the Apostles and Christ Jesus lived in...
Yahshua has yet to return the second time...so all things have not Yet happened as I shared on the other thread...
If all was fulfilled and completed in 70AD...then we all must be in "hell" already and will never make it to Heaven...which is just ridiculous...and although it is true for some...for they create their own hell in this life time...I believe in Heaven and hell...and the End of Time...has yet to happen as in Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, [[[ that there should be time no longer: ]]]...is your watch ticking ???...do you function daily in regards to time ???...I shall say so...xo
"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : 19 Aug, 2013 09:26 PM
"We are living in the 14th Generation...the same Generation the Apostles and Christ Jesus lived in... "
Wrong. Read Matthew 1
So all the generations from Abraham to David [are] fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon [are] fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ [are] fourteen generations.
"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : 20 Aug, 2013 06:51 AM
Have you "Counted" the Generations...all 3 sets 14 that add up to 42 Generations ???....Or have you just taken someone's word for it ???...We are not to just read the Scriptures...We are to Search the scriptures...
The 42 generations come from the genealogy of Christ as recorded in Matthew chapter one. It goes from Abraham to Jesus Christ and has 42 generations by the record of scripture itself.
Matthew 1:17
- "So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations."
However, notice that the verse does not specifically state that there are 42 generations. It says rather that there are three groups of 14 generations. This is important because when someone counts through the generations, only 41 can be found in a straight count. But notice the wording of Matthew 1:17
"David" is included in [[[ both the first list of 14 names and the second list of 14 names. ]]] He is the fourteenth generation from Abraham, but he is the beginning of another set of 14. That is why the straight count only gives 41 names.
Hope that brings a lil light to the subject of discussion....xo
"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : 20 Aug, 2013 07:18 AM
Have you "Counted" the Generations...all 3 sets 14 that add up to 42 Generations ???....Or have you just taken someone's word for it ???...We are not to just read the Scriptures...We are to Search the scriptures...
By the way..... Did you just take David Reagan's word for it?
"This generation will not pass away until all these things have happened" in Matthew 24:34 explained!!
Posted : 20 Aug, 2013 07:26 AM
Excellent!!!...Now I know who you really are!!!...Yeh...who is ar.voice5.com?...do you know ???
And No I did not take his word for it...I have done the research my self and have found what he has stated is true...What difference does it make to you who I quoted for to save time as others including you do also...Cut and Paste it is called...Sermons are Cut and Paste...Quotes are Cut and Paste...:laugh:...
NOTHING in Yahweh's Word is Irrelevant...and you just don't understand that We are in the 14th Generation...so be it...xo
