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Posted : 22 Aug, 2011 12:25 PM

The Protestant Reformers Were Frauds

An Anabaptist speaks out.

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Also see Martin Luther, the Deranged Theologian

Martin Luther was not a great reformer like the history books teach, but he was a fraud!



Here are some quotes from Luther which shows that he taught the heresy of Once Saved Always Saved:



"Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here in this world we have to sin. This life is not a dwelling place of righteousness"



"No sin will separate us from the lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."



"Whenever the devil harasses you, seek the company of men or drink more, or joke and talk nonsense, or do some other merry thing. Sometimes we must drink more, sport, recreate ourselves, and even sin a little to spite the devil, so that we leave him no place for troubling our consciences with trifles. We are conquered if we try too conscientiously not to sin at all. So when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."



"The imputation of righteousness we need very much, because we are far from perfect. As long as we have this body, sin will dwell in our flesh. Then, too, we sometimes drive away the holy spirit; we fall into sin, like Peter, David, and other holy men. Nevertheless we may always take recourse to this fact, that our sins are covered, and that God will not lay them to our charge. Sin is not held against us for Christ's sake."



"your sin cannot cast you into hell"



"No sin can harm me"



LUTHER WAS AN ANTI-SEMITE



Here are some quite shocking quotes from Luther which show that he was a rabid anti-Semite:



"The Jews deserve to be hanged on gallows, seven times higher than ordinary thieves"



"We ought to take revenge on the Jews and kill them."



"The blind Jews are truly stupid fools"



"Now just behold these miserable, blind, and senseless people."



"eject them forever from this country"



"they are nothing but thieves and robbers"



"What then shall we do with this damned, rejected race of Jews?"



"Such a desperate, thoroughly evil, poisonous, and devilish lot are these Jews"



"They are the real liars and bloodhounds"



"We are at fault for not slaying them."



"I shall give you my sincere advice: first to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them."



"Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed."



"Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews."



"Burn down their synagogues, forbid all that I enumerated earlier, force them to work, and deal harshly with them"



"If this does not help we must drive them out like mad dogs"



"If I had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the river Elbe, hang a stone around his neck and push him over with the words `I baptize thee in the name of Abraham'."



Martin Luther [ was not a Christian man, ] but, instead, he was a brutal man who persecuted the Jews unmercifully.



The word of God calls Martin Luther a liar:



1John 4:20- If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?



LUTHER CONDONED THE DEATHS OF A 100,000 PEASANTS



The peasants of Germany revolted in 1525 because of their miserable living conditions and were slaughtered at the behest of Martin Luther!



Here is a quote from Luther that will send chills up your spine:



"They should be knocked to pieces, strangled and stabbed, secretly and openly, by everybody who can do it, just as one must kill a mad dog!"



Are these the words of a Christian and a great reformer? I think not! Luther was an evil man who urged the slaughter of the poor who had revolted. He told people to knock the peasants to pieces and strangle and stab them. 100,000 German peasants were horribly slaughtered in the revolt!



JOHN CALVIN WAS A MURDERER



Not only was the founder of Calvinism, John Calvin, a great deceiver, but he was also a murderer!



Here are John Calvin's own words about Michael Servetus:



"If he (Servetus) comes (to Geneva), I shall never let him go out alive if my authority has weight."



"I hope that the verdict will call for the death penalty."



In Geneva, on October 27, 1553, Michael Servetus was tied to a stake and was burned slowly to death:



www.encyclopedia.com/articlesnew/11716.html



Here is what John Calvin had to say about Michael Servetus after he was burned to death:



"Many people have accused me of such ferocious cruelty that (they allege) I would like to kill again the man I have destroyed. Not only am I indifferent to their comments, but I rejoice in the fact that they spit in my face."



"Whoever shall now contend that it is unjust to put heretics and blasphemers to death will knowingly and willingly incur their very guilt."



John Calvin [ was not a �Christian�, ] my friends, but he was an egotistical tyrant and a cold-blooded killer!



How anyone can follow the warped teachings of this deranged monster from the past is beyond belief.



A man named Sebastian Castellio wrote against what Calvin did to Servetus and he made this tremendous statement:



"To kill a man is not to defend a doctrine. It is to kill a man!"



Castellio paid a great price for standing up to Calvin the tyrant. He was hounded and persecuted by John Calvin until his death.



Murderers like John Calvin and Martin Luther are not Christians:



1 John 3:15- ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.



For more on Calvin see Calvinism and The Servetus Murder



In five years, 1542-46, Geneva, with 16,000 inhabitants, had fifty-seven executions and seventy-six banishments. All these sentences were [ sanctioned ] by John Calvin.



Let's take a look at the two so-called great reformers of the protestant reformation:



1. Martin Luther was a false teacher, a racist, a persecutor and a murderer!



2. John Calvin was a false teacher, a deranged tyrant, a persecutor and a murderer!



The Protestant Reformation was a farce!



THE PROTESTANT `REFORMERS' PERSECUTED, TORTURED AND SLAUGHTERED THE ANABAPTISTS



Link to true accounts of how the Anabaptists were tortured and murdered at the hands of the Protestants:



"The Martyrs Mirror"



www.homecomers.org/mirror/contents.htm



Do Christians persecute, torture and murder other human beings? Of course they don't! The Protestant Reformers were not Christians, but they were bloody evil men.



*** The Truth is NOT an Opinion�Why would Anyone want to Follow ANY man�s doctrine or ways instead of Christ Jesus ???�Thank you and Praise you Father for your Word�Acts 11:26 �And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. [ And the disciples were called [ Christians ] first in Antioch.��notice in God�s Word�it doesn�t say Lutheran or Calvinist or Reformer or Anabaptist or Catholic or�etc�etc�etc�etc�xo

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2011 08:50 PM

I am so sick and tired of this Calvinist mess, but no one can say one word about Jesus! One thing I do know for sure, and it has been proven over and over again, time after time.

Any time a person get so offended and starts defending their denomination, or a man or a woman who is over their denomination as their spirutal, defending their religious church doctrine beliefs... this is considered to be a cult! IDOLITARY! worshipping the spiritual leader more than God and the Lord Jesus Christ!

We are not to defend our denominations or the man or woman who are the spiritual leaders or teachers of any denomination, and Paul tells us this thoughtout his writings. Even Jesus refused to allow the disciples to defend him... we are to defend and contend for the FAITH which is the WORD OF GOD, THE GOSPEL WHICH SAVES US, not what man has said or written...

Contending for the faith has not one thing to do with what Calivn or Arminias or the Pope or anyother spirutal leder has to say. Contending for the faith has to do with what GOD SAYS ABOUT HIS WORD AND WHAT HE HAS DONE AND WHAT HE SAYS WE ARE TO DO AS BELIVERS IN HIS SON!

Tell me this, What cross did Calvin or Arminians or the Pope or any other spiritual leader die on for anyone sins?.... All any of these leaders can do is send you to hell, because you believe and have more faith in what they have to say about what God has already said, and most everything they have said is spiritaully incorrect, and you don't know the truth for your own self, nor can you discuss the word based on spiritual insight that has been given you by the Holy Spirit.

Neither Calvin, Arminians nor the Pope have any more power or spiritual insights or knowledge than anyone else, if you seek the Lord and read His word and study to show yourself approved by God a workman who need not be ashamed, for rightly dividing the word of truth... this is what they all did and the word says those whos eek the Lord He will REVEAL HIMSELF to the person and give them spiritual knowledge, understanding and wisdom into His holy Word, and as to who He is in a personal way.

Again, Calvinists, stand so strongly up for what others say Calvin wrote, when written material I've studied in seminary proves that much of what Calvinist believed , Calvin himself did not write nor did he start no such thing as Calvinism, and Calvin was dead and gone when the five points and many of the other of his writings came out, which means others finished much of his work and added and explained his work the confusing way they did, as if he had written them during his life. Plus, much of his writings were for his own spiritual therapy, and after he died people took his writings and made their own doctrines and place his name to it. Even much of Luthers work, everybody knew Luther was half crazy! even if he was a man of God he still was crazy!

And while I'm at it... the Pope, he's wacked as well!:ROFL:

Y'all need to quit! Good post Jude!:yay::laugh:

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2011 08:56 PM

Again, what CROSS did Calvin, the Pope, Arminians or any other spiritual leader died upon for your salvation?...

when any of you can answer this question then you've done well...:glow:

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2011 09:09 PM

Every you ever seen any other group oppose, the truth any more than calvinist.



Yes ET it is idolatry and also to many it is their God, there is no Jesus in Calvinism. No Jesus, No way to the father.

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2011 10:08 PM

Ella,



Again...would you PLEASE cite where I can Read about what you said :



"...Calvin himself did not write nor did he start no such thing as Calvinism, and Calvin was dead and gone when the five points and many of the other of his writings came out..."



I would appriciate it. Either do that or stop spreading Heresay.

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 05:12 AM

excellent post James

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 05:27 AM

The following scriptural verses speak directly to those who have commented on Calvin-myself included:



1 Corinthians 3 verses 1-11

The Church and Its Leaders

1 Brothers and sisters, I could not address you as people who live by the Spirit but as people who are still worldly�mere infants in Christ. 2 I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. 3 You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans? 4 For when one says, �I follow Paul,� and another, �I follow Apollos,� are you not mere human beings?



5 What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe�as the Lord has assigned to each his task. 6 I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. 7 So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8 The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. 9 For we are co-workers in God�s service; you are God�s field, God�s building.



10 By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ."

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 05:41 AM

Itasca



What are you endeavoring to say, in your last post?

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2011 10:08 PM

ARCH SAID: Ella, Again...would you PLEASE cite where I can Read about what you said : "...Calvin himself did not write nor did he start no such thing as Calvinism, and Calvin was dead and gone when the five points and many of the other of his writings came out..." I would appriciate it. Either do that or stop spreading Heresay.

ELLA SAYS: Arch, AS I've said I DON'T GIVE OUT HAND OUT, if you are interested in information on John Calvin go google his name and READ his bio and other information written about him, visit your local library and learn to READ!

Also, where do you get off with your tone of voice and words of demand, ordering and commanding that I either give you my source of information or else "stop spreading heresay.?..." So just because YOU don't know what I know and I refuse to give you my source you classify what I say as hearsay?... Arch, you don't give me no do or else choices...AND who did you say, you are? ...YOU ARE WHO???? ...

One thing you are for sure , you are funny because you make me laugh:ROFL::ROFL:... :ROFL: AND, I AIN'T GIVIN YOU NUTTIN:ROFL:... and I will continue speaking information that you don't know, nor do you know my scources ... and neeexxxt!:goofball:

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 07:46 AM

BTW Arch,, did you mean to say hearsay or heresy... well, there is nothing that be spoken about John Calvin or anyone else that can be called heresy ...

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 08:42 AM

James shared ~ The Way to be right with God is by repenting and trusting in Jesus alone for salvation. The five points of doctrine NICKNAMED Calvinism are five points of doctrine, and they are NOT the gospel.

*** That is correct the way to be right with GOD�I can clearly see now�Hallelujah !!!�my eyes have been truly opened�I understand now�You don�t Preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven and God and Salvation through Christ Jesus which we are commissioned to do�you Preach a Stiff way of Living�Legalistic�Non-Tolerance for Others and Hypercritical of All�Thank you Father for your Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus has confirmed this many times�



Tell me Jude, you are saying that only a female may interpret Scripture properly? Because James Arminius was a man and you believe all five points of Arminianism.

*** Where do you come up with this stuff ???�Now that�s a real Hoot !!!�thanxs for the laugh�I needed it�xo

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