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Are Babies Born Sinless?
Posted : 6 Sep, 2011 08:46 PM

It has been claimed on this Forum that Babies are Born Sinless.



I Disagree and Scripture states Differently.



I am not going to Repost all those Scripture Verses pertaining to Original Sin but will Instead ask this Question:



If a Baby is Born Sinless and if No One will be able to Enter Heaven with Sin on their Soul�then what if that baby were to Die just Days after being Born? There is No Way that Two Day Old Baby could Sin�so that baby will have Died SINLESS.



So�being Sinless and thus Having No Sin on their Soul�that Baby will go Straight to Heaven�Right? Logic says�YES!



That bad part with this Scenario is that Jesus� Sacrifice was not NEEDED in this Case. Can you see anything Wrong with This Picture?



Also if Babies are Born Sinless�then out of The Billions of babies Born since God Created this World�you would Think that ONE Child was able to Avoid Sinning? Say that child of a family that was Shipwrecked and the Parents died when that child was Five Years Old.



So�Ella��Come On Down!�



�Spin that Magic that you do so well!�

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 09:04 AM

Arch, I see that you are not really seeking God's truths, you are trying as PJ syas, hold on to, and believe the false doctrine of your church's false lies... How many times does Jesus have to die for ALL THE SINS OF THE WORLD?

He died once for ALL, AND ALL FOR ONCE. He ain't dying no more on the cross, IT IS FINISHED! His death was the sacrifice for ALL SINS of the world for those already born and those who are to be born.

If you truly are seeking the truth then you would spend QUALITY TIME somewhere READING for yourself what GOD'S SAYS! Starting in Matthew chapter 1, and READ to the end of the book, chapter by chapter.

Again, I says, if children are born with sin then Jesus WOULD NOT RECKON or consider their innocence as being what adults should be like in order to enter the kingdom, nor would He have blessed the children. Jesus says UNLESS we have the same innocent spirit and attitude as a child, we are not fit for the kingdom. SO, What part of this don't you UNDERSTAND???

When David's child died, did the child go to hell or heaven?

WAKE UP! You are believing a LIE of demons and false doctrine of your church, babies if they die GO TO HEAVEN, why shouldn't they go to heaven? What crime or sin have they committed? Only people who are UNREPENTANT GOT TO HELL, and those who have not received Jesus Christ into their lives for the FORGIVENNESS OF THEIR SINS GO TO HELL!...that's Bible! what you beleiev and have been taight is a LIE! so whose report do you believe?... what God has to say or the false doctrine of the men who were not led by the Holy Spirit and wrote their own doctrines out of spiritual ignorance? I would rather believe what God says in His word than a doctrine of ANY CHURCH!

Go and READ FOR YOURSELF! You read God's word, then decide. Don't you understand that it is the devil's will that you not come into the knowledge and understanding of God's word therefore, he keeps you confused and keeps you away from reading the word of truth for yourself, because themn you would be illuminated into God's truth and enlightened, and the devil does not like this... you are in spiritual oppression and lack God's knowledge and understanding and wisdom, and this suits the devil just fine!

BE SET FREE FROM SPIRITUAL OPPRESSION AND COMES INTO THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD. IN THE POWERFUL NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OUR REDEEMER! AS THE LORD LIVES THIS DAY! AMEN!

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 09:14 AM

Oh, when God created Adam and Eve did He creat them in sin? NO! the serpent(satan/devil) deceived Eve into sins, this is when sins came to man.

therefore, a child is born just as Adam and Eve, born innocent without sins, in the image and nature of Christ UNTIL he/she gets older and is deceived with the LIE of the devil that sin is good.

This is why God teaches us to write His word in the minds of our children even so, while they are in the womb by reading to them God's word whle they are in the womb, and after they are born. So when they grow older they will not DEPART from it. Does not mean they will not stray at some point in their life, but they WILL NOT depart. And if a child when they grown up does stray, the word is imprinted in their minds, they will always return back from their sins and repent before God.

SPIRITUALLY CONNECT THE DOTS OF GOD'S WORD!

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 03:40 PM

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me. Ps 51:5





The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies." Psalm 58:3

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 05:29 PM

Ella,



I asked a SIMPLE Question.



If That Child Died...SINLESS...then it should Go To Heaven.



And it Will have Done So...WITHOUT Jesus!



Can You Understand That?



Ella...that Child did Not NEED Christ's SACRIFICE on THe Cross!



That cannot Be! Scripture Tells Us Differently.



But According to you...if that Child is Sinless...then it Did Not Need Christ!



Will You Agree To That?

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 07:30 PM

Arch here is a simple question you will first need to be grounded in the new testament before you ever can go into the old testament.



The answer is right in the seventh ch of romans

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 08:34 PM

Arch READ WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY!

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2011 08:41 PM

Psalm 139- If you believe Psalm 51 which is David's prayer of repentance for his sin against God. Then you should also believe this Psalm. And fi God can't open your understanding of His word after reading those chpaters I gave to you, then I look like a fool trying to open your understanding... If you're doing what you're suppose to do then you will see the truth and the light, if you're not and would like to deny waht God says and hang on to what your church says, then so be it... either you want the truth or you enjoy living in the darkness of the lie... suit your self.

Psalm 139:1 O LORD, You have searched me and known me.

2 You know my sitting down and my rising up;

You understand my thought afar off.

3 You comprehend my path and my lying down,

And are acquainted with all my ways.

4 For there is not a word on my tongue,

But behold, O LORD, You know it altogether.

5 You have hedged me behind and before,

And laid Your hand upon me.

6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me;

It is high, I cannot attain it.

7 Where can I go from Your Spirit?

Or where can I flee from Your presence?

8 If I ascend into heaven, You are there;

If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there.

9 If I take the wings of the morning,

And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea,

10 Even there Your hand shall lead me,

And Your right hand shall hold me.

11 If I say, “Surely the darkness shall fall[a] on me,”

Even the night shall be light about me;

12 Indeed, the darkness shall not hide from You,

But the night shines as the day;

The darkness and the light are both alike to You.

13 For You formed my inward parts;

You covered me in my mother’s womb.

14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works,

And that my soul knows very well.

15 My frame was not hidden from You,

When I was made in secret,

And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.

And in Your book they all were written,

The days fashioned for me,

When as yet there were none of them.

17 How precious also are Your thoughts to me, O God!

How great is the sum of them!

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Posted : 8 Sep, 2011 08:32 AM

Hello everyone:



Children ARE NOT BORN SINLESS.

Only Yeshua was born SINLESS.



Children are not born with the nature of GOD,as stated by ET.

Everyone born of a woman is born with the sinful,evil,wicked,depraved,selfish,self-centered,self-seeking nature of ADAM.



Gen 8:21 and Jehovah smelleth the sweet fragrance, and Jehovah saith unto His heart, `I continue not to disesteem any more the ground because of man, though the imagination of the heart of man is evil from his youth; and I continue not to smite any more all living, as I have done;





Arch,those telling you to read the Word of GOD,these need to read the Word of GOD themselves.





Shalom

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Posted : 8 Sep, 2011 09:40 AM

Well George you just said that God put sin in children, Go figure.

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Posted : 8 Sep, 2011 01:02 PM

again the bible says we were born in sin, but the buffet is open some deny the scripture they don't want to believe. Put away self and repent.

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