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The Elect is Not:
Posted : 9 Nov, 2011 12:54 PM

First and foremost this is a bible term, but it is not a term that eliminates the lost from the ability to respond to the word of God and thus receive the word of God, which is the same as it has been and will continue to be under this covenant, No matter how it is projected about who God is and his abilities, it is he that has established that for the lost, a sinner, one not in the family of God is already welcome.



The Welcome Mat is out to any that will answer the word of God, there are no exceptions in the word of God.



2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:



Any and all scripture is able to bring to past, the declaration within itself, in the heart of man,



The traditions of men will try to eliminate scripture, or add to, and take away from to fit their own doctrine, but this practice will bring self deception to the individual that holds to any tradition of men.



All scripture's have with in them self the ability to bring to past the declaration of the word. That is faith...



Often it is said in defense of the election teaching, that some are eliminated from the family of God the father never eliminates any one .



It is he that calleth things that be not as though they are and expects his children to do the same, and in his heart all are saved, that is the expectancy of faith according to the sacrifice made for the lost.



It requires two scriptures to establish the will of God on any topic, and yes it is known that some would say have fifty scriptures that say otherwise, that is a spiritual impossibility.



So for the lost here are three scriptures to establish the will of God to the lost.



Mk 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Mk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.



Jn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Jn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Jn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.



2nd Cor 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

2nd Cor 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

2nd Cor 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

2nd Cor 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ�s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

2nd Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

2nd Cor 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.

2nd Cor 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succored thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

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The Elect is Not:
Posted : 11 Nov, 2011 03:12 PM

KJV:

Rom 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.





Literal Tanslation:

Rom 3:9 What then? Do we excel? Not at all! For we have charged both Jews and Greeks before, all with being under sin;

Rom 3:10 according as it has been written, "There is not a righteous one, not even one!"

Rom 3:11 "There is not one understanding; there is not one seeking God."

Rom 3:12 All turned away, they became worthless together, not one is doing goodness, not so much as one!" LXX-Psa. 13:1-3





Youngs literal Translation:

Rom 3:9 What, then? are we better? not at all! for we did before charge both Jews and Greeks with being all under sin,

Rom 3:10 according as it hath been written--`There is none righteous, not even one;

Rom 3:11 There is none who is understanding, there is none who is seeking after God.

Rom 3:12 All did go out of the way, together they became unprofitable, there is none doing good, there is not even one.



In the above Scripture,The Holy Spirit empowers Paul to show that both the Jew and Gentile are under sin.



Both the Jew and Gentile 'DO NOT SEEK AFTER YHWH'.



As from the Garden until Yeshua returns,it is and will always be that YHWH is the one which seeks men,and not that man seeks YHWHW..



Psalm 37:4



Psa 37:4 Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.



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Hebrew-anag



H6026

ענג

‛ânag

BDB Definition:

1) to be soft, be delicate, be dainty

1a) (Pual) to be delicate

1b) (Hithpael)

1b1) to be of dainty habit, be pampered

1b2) to be happy about, take exquisite delight

1b3) to make merry over, make sport of





It is YHWH which puts into man any desires that man might have of GOD..



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