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For Agapeton: Jesus' Public Ministry was about three and a half years..
Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 07:36 PM
How long was Jesus' ministry?
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Question: "How long was Jesus' ministry?"
Answer: According to Luke (3:1), John the Baptist began his ministry in the 15th year of Tiberius� reign (A.D. 29). Jesus began His ministry shortly thereafter at the age of thirty (3:23). Incidentally, this indicates that Jesus was probably born around 1 B.C. (please note: there was no year 0 � A.D. 1 immediately following 1 B.C.). This contradicts the popular date of 4 B.C. for Herod the Great�s death, since Jesus was born while Herod was still alive. Recent scholarship, however, has discredited the popular view in favor of 1 B.C.; or, more specifically, sometime between the January 9 lunar eclipse of 1 B.C. and the Feast of Passover a few months later. This tentatively corroborates Luke�s account.
Regardless of the questions surrounding the date of Herod�s death, the dates of Tiberius� reign have been confidently established. They give us a firm basis upon which we can approximate what year Jesus began His public ministry: around A.D. 29. As for the end of His ministry, we know that it culminated with His crucifixion, resurrection and ascension.
According to the Gospel accounts, Christ was crucified the day before Passover, was �three days and three nights in the heart of the earth� (Matthew 12:38-40), and was resurrected before sunrise on a Sunday. In order for Christ to have been crucified the day before Passover and resurrected on a Sunday three days and three nights later, Passover would have had to fall on a Friday, whereby Christ was crucified on a Thursday.
For example, Passover of A.D. 30 fell on a Thursday (April 6). To be crucified the day before Passover (Wednesday) and resurrected on Sunday, Jesus would have been in the grave Wednesday afternoon, Wednesday night, Thursday day, Thursday night, Friday day, Friday night, Saturday day, Saturday night, and Sunday morning before sunrise. That is four nights�one too many. So A.D. 30 doesn�t work. Plus, according to John�s Gospel, Jesus attended at least three annual Feasts of Passover throughout the course of His ministry: one in John 2:23, another in 6:4 and the Passover of His crucifixion in 11:55-57. So, one year (A.D. 29 to 30) just isn�t enough time.
Based on the dates provided by Sir Robert Anderson in his The Coming Prince (Kregel: Grand Rapids, p. 104), we used the Rosetta Calendar online calendar conversion service to establish which days of the week Passover fell on between the years A.D. 29 (our starting point) and A.D. 37. Here are Anderson�s dates and their respective days of the week (please note that these are Julian rather than Gregorian dates):
Passover of A.D. 29 fell on a Saturday (April 16)
Passover of A.D. 30 fell on a Wednesday (April 5)
Passover of A.D. 31 fell on a Monday (March 26)
Passover of A.D. 32 fell on a Monday (April 14)
Passover of A.D. 33 fell on a Friday (April 3)
Passover of A.D. 34 fell on a Monday (March 22)
Passover of A.D. 35 fell on a Monday (April 11)
Passover of A.D. 36 fell on a Friday (March 30)
Passover of A.D. 37 fell on a Wednesday (March 20)
Using this range of dates and assuming that Christ was in the grave for three days and three nights and resurrected on Sunday, we can narrow down the year of Christ�s crucifixion to one of two possibilities: A.D. 33 or 36. A prophecy from the book of Daniel seems to favor the earlier date of A.D. 33.
In Daniel 9, Gabriel tells Daniel that �Seventy sevens have been decreed for your people� From the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there will be seven sevens and sixty-two sevens; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress. Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary and its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.� (9:24-26)
Seven sevens + 62 sevens = 69 sevens. 69 seven-year periods would pass from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem until the coming of the Messiah. The Messiah would be �cut off,� and the city and temple would be destroyed again. A 70th seven-year period would follow.
While the prophecy does not specify what the sevens are, the immediate context implies that they are years. Daniel�s prayer in verses 3-19 focuses on the fulfillment of a 70-year period � the 70 years of Babylonian captivity as prophesied by Jeremiah (25:11). The 70 sevens prophecy was delivered to Daniel in response to this prayer. Seventy years fulfilled; 7 times 70 still to come.
Scholars generally agree that this prophecy is according to the ancient 360-day calendar employed by both the Hebrews and the Babylonians (the book of Daniel being written in Babylon during the Babylonian captivity after the fall and decimation of Jerusalem by King Nebuchadnezzar). 69 x 7 years = 483 years. 483 years x 360 days = 173,880 days.
Persian Emperor Artaxerxes Longimanus (who ruled Persia from 464-424 B.C.) issued the edict to rebuild Jerusalem on the 1st of Nissan in the 20th year of his reign (that is, March 5, 444 B.C.; see Nehemiah 2:1-8). 173,880 days from March 5, 444 B.C., ends at March 30, 33 A.D. Here�s the math:
March 5, 444 B.C., to March 5, A.D. 33 = 476 years (1 B.C. to A.D. 1 is one year; there is no year 0). 476 x 365.24219879 days (which is the length of one year according to our modern calendar) = 173,855 days. March 5 to March 30 is another 25 days. 173,855 days + 25 days = 173,880 days.
March 30, A.D. 33, was exactly 5 days before Passover on April 3, A.D. 33. According to John�s Gospel, the Triumphal Entry took place 5 days before Passover: �Then, six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus was who had been dead, whom He had raised from the dead. � Now a great many of the Jews knew that He was there; and they came, not for Jesus' sake only, but that they might also see Lazarus, whom He had raised from the dead. But the chief priests plotted to put Lazarus to death also, because on account of him many of the Jews went away and believed in Jesus. The next day a great multitude that had come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem, took branches of palm trees and went out to meet Him, and cried out: �Hosanna! Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD! The King of Israel!�" (John 12:1, 9-13)
The day after six days before the Passover equals five days before the Passover. March 30th was the Triumphal Entry, the day upon which Christ presented Himself to the nation of Israel as their Messiah, the first time in His entire ministry that He allowed Himself to be publicly proclaimed as the Messiah (Matthew 21:8-16; Luke 19:37-40; cf. Matthew 16:13-20; Mark 8:27-30; 9:9-10; Luke 9:18-21; John 6:14-15). He was crucified four days later, the day before Passover. Within one generation the future Emperor Titus razed Jerusalem and destroyed the temple.
Based on these points, we believe that Jesus� ministry lasted about three and a half years, from sometime around A.D. 29 until the spring of A.D. 33.
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For Agapeton: Jesus' Public Ministry was about three and a half years..
Posted : 2 Jan, 2012 11:10 PM
Agapheton said:How many times did Jesus' disciples tell jesus about the spices and the woman washing his feet?
You think they would have remembered it if it happened one more time during the three years?
ME: UM,YOU think they didn't? You saying that they COULDN'T REMEMBER ANYTHING JESUS SAID AND DID AND THE 3 GOSPELS THAT SHOW IT WAS ONE YEAR ARE WRONG? How about you look at the other SYNOPTIC GOSPELS AND COMPARE THE EVENTS IN THERE WITH JOHN AND SEE WHEN AND WHERE THEY ARE MENTIONED IN JOHN'S GOSPEL FOR SIMILARITY? I can't believe you don't ever ATTEMPT to do that. It's down right scary.
The simple fact that we HAVE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS STATING THAT JESUS HAD A ONE YEAR MINISTRY RECORDED IN HISTORY BEFORE 400AD SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT WHERE THIS BELIEF CAME FROM. But NOPE. You got to critisize things and people you know nothing about like a good Pharisee. Yup I said it./ You have Pharisee spirit within you, sister. How do we know this?
This comment, let's me know for sure you don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. Whose your pastor or teachers?
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BINGO! THAT'S HOW. The Pharisee did the same thing to Jesus and anyone else who came and said something that they didn't agree with. They even followed Jesus around and tried to give Him a bad name.
So how many topics have you gone into and tried to goat me in, sister? That's down right demonic in some circles..
The disciples didn't tell Jesus anything about the spices and the woman washing his feet, wher in scripture did you read this?....
AND YOU STILL DON'T SEE ANY SIMILARITY IN THIS EVENT?
12:1 Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.
Joh 12:2 There they made him a supper; and Martha served: but Lazarus was one of them that sat at the table with him.
Joh 12:3 Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.
Joh 12:4 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,
Joh 12:5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
Joh 12:6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.
Joh 12:7 Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this.
Joh 12:8 For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.
This couldn't be the same event now could it? According to you, of course not. AND WHY DO YOU SAY THIS EXACTLY? Does John say that this is in the 1st 2nd or 3rd year during any of the narration? NOPE! Why is that?
Mat 26:8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste?
Mat 26:9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.
Mat 26:10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.
Mat 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.
Mat 26:12 For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial.
You don't even know why you are reading the four gospel accounts of each Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John as they are written with a four-fold message about Jesus.
Dear sister, I highly doubt you even know what I'm trying to get at much less read anything outside of your own concoctions and assumptions about what I'm trying to do.
If it is said that there were THREE PASSOVERS... Again, I ask you the question, HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR DOES THE PASSOVER COME??
DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU AT ALL THAT John is mentioning about these events in a NON CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER AND JUST MENTIONS THE SAME PASSOVER THREE TIMES?
EXAMPLE: It's like me talking about going to the third day concert on friday and then proceeding to tell you of certain events BEFORE THAT CONCERT ON FRIDAY.
Here let me elaborate further:
Story one: "Man, ET, Just as Friday was approaching, I saw PJ and he was talking about Acts 2:4"
Then I stop and talk about something else that wasn't so close to Friday and go with;
Story two: Hey! I was going to the third day concert and fell.
And again.
Story three: as Friday was approaching, this weird alien chick was talking smack and really needed to check herself. I don't know what her gripe was about.
NOW. Did I go to THREE DIFFERENT THIRD DAY CONCERTS ON THREE DIFFERENT FRIDAYS, OR DID I JUST GO TO ONE?
Simple. Isn't it?
How can YOU GUESS THAT HIS MINISTRY WAS THREE YEARS FROM THE WORD PASSOVERS MENTIONED THREE TIMES WITHOUT THE AUTHOR SAYING IT WAS DONE ON A PARTICULAR YEAR OF THE THREE, sister?
