Thread: How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
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How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 9 Jan, 2012 11:20 AM
Romans 16:5: "Greet the church that meets at their house!"
I Cor 16:19: "Aquila and Priscilla greet you warmly in the Lord, and so does the church that meets at their house!"
Philemon 1:2:"To the church that meets in your home!"
Luke 12:33,34: Jesus says, �Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will not be exhausted....For where your treasure is there your heart will be also.�
Presently the poor in the USA have cars, cell phones, TV's and food stamps. Whereas there are over 2 billion people in the world who makes less then a dollar a day!!:applause::angel::peace:
Matthew 20:20-24: �All these {Commandments} I have kept, the young man said. �What do I still lack?� Jesus answered, �If you want to be perfect, go, sell tour possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. **THEN** come, follow Me.� When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus says, �It is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.�
Luke 6:20: Jesus says �Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.�
2 Corinthians 6:4-10: As servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: in great endurance, in troubles, hardships and distresses, in beatings, imprisonments; in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love, in truthful speech and in the power of God; genuine, yet regarded as impostors; dying, and yet we live on; beaten and yet not killed; *POOR*, yet making many rich; *HAVING NOTHING*; and yet possessing everything.�
I Timothy 6:5-10: There are men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with Contentment is great gain....If we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge them into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.�
I Timothy 2:9,10: �I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.�
Matthew 19:27-30: Peter said to Jesus, �We have left EVERYTHING to follow you! What then will there be for us?� Jesus says, �I tell you the Truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me {Including Paul}will also sit on 12 thrones...And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for My sake will receive 100 times as much and will inherit eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and many who are last {In this life}will be first.� And there will be plenty of room for 100 houses and 100 fields in the New Jerusalem since it will be over 1377 miles long and wide and high.
The early church followed these Biblical commands:
Acts 2:44,45: "All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to everyone as he had need!!"
Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared EVERYTHING they had!!
Luke 6:27-30: Jesus commands, But I tell you who hear Me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not keep him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back!!"
2 Cor 10:3,4: "For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have Divine Power to demolish strongholds!!"
Matthew 28:19,20: Jesus commands, "Make disciples of all nations..... teaching them to obey **EVERYTHING** I have commanded you!!"
I John 2:3-5: "We know that we have come to know Him **IF** we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the Truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys His Word, God's love is truly made complete in Him!!"
How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 9 Jan, 2012 07:04 PM
Sorry, James, I got confused myslef with the foolishness of these guys who don't attend anybody's church, and try to make a doctrien out of scripture that God has called us to hold house churches... you're right the all sound alike:ROFL:
Anywayzzz, his name is Richard (Prophetic)... George (Passover) ,,, and AWM they all sound the same adn talk the same trash! Qouting scriptures they can't relate to the scriptures they quote or explain on a spiritual personal level.
As I said, Jesus and the apostles walked everywhere they went, so why isn't Richard wlaking all over town? Backward march instead of forward march this is why there is no spiritual maturity and growth.. this has not one thing to do with the church in your heart that od seeks.
How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 9 Jan, 2012 07:08 PM
Corrections: that God seeks..
Forgetting those things of the past, We press toward the higher call that is found ONLY in Christ Jesus, whether you're in a church house or a house church:yay:... the question is, WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IN EITHER PLACE???
How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 9 Jan, 2012 07:40 PM
PJ, I said that about the 2000 dollar suits and I meant it, I dont care what kind of suit a man wears, but I am not sending some fast talking cars salesman mascarading as a man of God my money, and anyone who does is a fool, we should give to our church that we attend and give to the poor directly!
And my point was this if you are giving to the church or to someone pretending to be the church so you can get money back, its a simle as this ITS WITCHCRAFT!! if your intention is to make money thats evil intentions period!
I heard a man one time on tv tell all his crazy atories about how he has never had o buy a suit casue he one time gave the 100 dollars he was gonna buy a suit with to a minisry and for 40 years nw he has never bought his own suit! maybe that happend maybe it didnt maybe god blessed him with suits and maybe satan did in order to decieve him into thinking its opk to use the name of the lord to get rich!
Like I said its all about intentions and if your intentions are to get rich then thats si all day long, in every time zone
How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 9 Jan, 2012 07:40 PM
PJ, I said that about the 2000 dollar suits and I meant it, I dont care what kind of suit a man wears, but I am not sending some fast talking cars salesman mascarading as a man of God my money, and anyone who does is a fool, we should give to our church that we attend and give to the poor directly!
And my point was this if you are giving to the church or to someone pretending to be the church so you can get money back, its a simle as this ITS WITCHCRAFT!! if your intention is to make money thats evil intentions period!
I heard a man one time on tv tell all his crazy atories about how he has never had o buy a suit casue he one time gave the 100 dollars he was gonna buy a suit with to a minisry and for 40 years nw he has never bought his own suit! maybe that happend maybe it didnt maybe god blessed him with suits and maybe satan did in order to decieve him into thinking its opk to use the name of the lord to get rich!
Like I said its all about intentions and if your intentions are to get rich then thats sin all day long, in every time zone
How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 9 Jan, 2012 08:01 PM
Et, you think I am having a "senior moment" because I called prophetic774 by the handle, AWM?
How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 9 Jan, 2012 08:07 PM
are you sure James? :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
Thats really funny in its true being that AWM said "the lord had told him to move on from this forum" taheehehehe!
please tell me its true please please:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 9 Jan, 2012 10:04 PM
The early church followed the commands of Jesus very much unlike the Satanic Prosperity Gospel churches.
How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshiped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of their budget on luxurious church buildings.
Luke 12:33,34: Jesus says, �Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will not be exhausted....For where your treasure is there your heart will be also.�
Matthew 20:20-24: �All these {Commandments} I have kept, the young man said. �What do I still lack?� Jesus answered, �If you want to be perfect, go, sell tour possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. **THEN** come, follow Me.� When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus says, �It is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.�
Luke 6:20: Jesus says �Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.�
2 Corinthians 6:4-10: As servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: in great endurance, in troubles, hardships and distresses, in beatings, imprisonments; in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love, in truthful speech and in the power of God; genuine, yet regarded as impostors; dying, and yet we live on; beaten and yet not killed; *POOR*, yet making many rich; *HAVING NOTHING*; and yet possessing everything.�
I Timothy 6:5-10: There are men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with Contentment is great gain....If we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge them into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.�
I Timothy 2:9,10: �I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.�
Matthew 19:27-30: Peter said to Jesus, �We have left EVERYTHING to follow you! What then will there be for us?� Jesus says, �I tell you the Truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me {Including Paul}will also sit on 12 thrones...And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for My sake will receive 100 times as much and will inherit eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and many who are last {In this life}will be first.� And there will be plenty of room for 100 houses and 100 fields in the New Jerusalem since it will be over 1377 miles long and wide and high.
The early church followed these Biblical commands:
Acts 2:44,45: "All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to everyone as he had need!!"
Acts 4:32: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared EVERYTHING they had!!
How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 07:33 AM
Does that mean your picking me up in the Jesus car so we can have church on the beach?? :laugh:
How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 07:40 AM
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How are the present day churches far different from the Biblical early churches?? The early churches worshipped in private homes and did not spend over 50% of theuir budget on luxurious chutrch buildings. The USA churches spend about 1% of their budget to support the really poor in foreign countries. The present churches believe it is OK to join armies and become professional killers. etc etc etc
Posted : 9 Jan, 2012 07:40 PM
PJ, I said that about the 2000 dollar suits and I meant it, I dont care what kind of suit a man wears, but I am not sending some fast talking cars salesman mascarading as a man of God my money, and anyone who does is a fool, we should give to our church that we attend and give to the poor directly!
And my point was this if you are giving to the church or to someone pretending to be the church so you can get money back, its a simle as this ITS WITCHCRAFT!! if your intention is to make money thats evil intentions period!
I heard a man one time on tv tell all his crazy atories about how he has never had o buy a suit casue he one time gave the 100 dollars he was gonna buy a suit with to a minisry and for 40 years nw he has never bought his own suit! maybe that happend maybe it didnt maybe god blessed him with suits and maybe satan did in order to decieve him into thinking its opk to use the name of the lord to get rich!
Like I said its all about intentions and if your intentions are to get ric
Elisha Satan can not bless anyone.
We are not to try to get Rich we are Rich, so it is our responsibility to accept his truth and walk in it.
