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Manscottell

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 07:56 AM

Matthew 9:11-13 The Pharisees said to Jesus disciples "Why is your Teacher eating with the tax gatherers and sinners?". But Jesus heared and said " it is not those who are healthy who need a physician but those who are sick ..........for I did not come to call the righteous but sinners"



There is a common misconception that believers must be perfect. Pretending to have our lives in order many of us wear faces and speak words that make us acceptable.



salvation through Jesus doesn't change the fact that sin will always be part of us, when we are born again God sees us as righteous but we sometimes choose to sin and that is why we have repentance, to confess our sins and turned away from them, so renew our relationship with God.



We can never be perfect, only God is perfect, in fact seeking for perfection can pull us away from living a Godly life.



The world sees wealthy individuals as self sufficient, but Christ don't care about wordly possesions, intead he wants us to be aware of weakness, because brokeness is the foundation of Godliness.



Apostle Paul said, when I am weak then I am strong. That means when we totally surrender and humble ourselves, God empowers us. We should accept our needness and seek God passionately.Doind this we developes these characters, a hunger for God's word, faithful service, deepning trust and decision making based on God's principles instead of preverebce,Patiently and mercifully Godmatures us.



We must becareful not to cover our sins in order to look like a good Christian but confess them. Without recognision and confession we will never be able to fully rely on God. It is only with the awareness that we can passionately seek Him, obey in His strength and confess with repentance, when we make mistake

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 01:36 PM

To Mnascottell:



Manscott,I do believe this belongs to you.



He wants us to be Holy,not perfect, that is why we get opportunity to repent when we sin and renew our relationship with him.



Farmer

My relationship with ABBA does not depend upon my repentance of sin.

My relationship depends upon my being inYeshua,living,

dying being resurrected and seated in the right hand of the father.



The relationship i have with ABBA,is as eternal as Yeshua is eternal.

My fellowship with ABBA is broken by sin,yet my relationship is never broken.



Shalom

Farmer

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 01:38 PM

You are right on Sister, Every child that God recieve he disciplines, that is the love of God, because His intension is not for a single soul to perish. Everything that God recieves He breaks and brokeness produces God like Characters. Jesus said If you love me you will obey my commandment, love overcomes every obstacle, it is not easy to be a Christian without the guidiance and discipline of the Holy Spirt. Love is the key to Godliness, when we are in love with Christ it will not be a burden to do what He requires us to do.

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 01:46 PM

Christ's resurrection destiny; His fore-ordained purpose was to bring many sons to Glory. Hebrews 2:10). The fulfilling of His destiny gives Him the right to make us sons and daughters to God, that the Son of God has, but we are brought by the Son into the Relation of Sonship. Thank God for the Glorious and Majestic Truth, that His Spirit can work the very Nature of Jesus into us, if we will only OBEY Him.

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 01:55 PM

PassedOverInChrist,

When we are in Sin God seperates Himself from us, the only way of renewing our relationship with Him, is by confessing our sin, repent and turn away from them. God is Holy, He wants us to be Holy, not perfect.



How can you live in holiness or in Christ if you don't repent for your sins.



The man who wanted to make an offering to God and had a problem with his brother, God asked him to go back and reconcile with his brother first and then come back and make his offering.



We cannot have a relatioship with God without living the way He wants us to live and if we make a mistake, recognized it and ask for forgiveness.

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 03:48 PM

Scott you are wrong God does want us to be perfect, the scripture says in mathew be ye perfect !



However biblcle perfection is not as we see it, perfection in the bible means complete, anytime the Lord says perfect he means compl;ete not flawless!



I am perfect I am complete in Jesus Christ!



Being Holt is asomething different being holy means without sin it means to be pure and I am that to, I do commit sin but thanks to the Lord Jesus He attoned for my sin so I am now Holy thanks to him!



That does not male it ok to run around sinning all the time, becaseu if we truly Love the Lord this is how we show our love to him he said it himsef that whoever loved him would keep his comandments, its my beliefe that the Lord Jesus mean all the commandments oin the whole bible not just the love your neighbor as yourself but all of them as Jesus was the word and the wod became flesh and dwelt among us John 1:10 (i think) so if Jeus was the word and everything was made by the Word tand the word was with God and the Word was God a nothing that was made was made by him then that means He gave the commanments in exodus too!



So if we love him we will live holy, but thats not what saves us never has ben never will be, the sooner we realize that the better

and let me just say this God hates sin, to him sin is all bad he hate lies ha hates fornication he hates murder he hates adulrty even if its commited in your heart!



So when we are talking abouy hollieness we muat remember that just becaseu we arent murdering or using drugs, maybe all we did was call in sick so we could go fishing or hunting God hates it all! So hollieness is not nessasary for salvation it is incednetal to salvation it is the side effects of salvation:nahnah:

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 04:45 PM

Elisha,

James 1:2-4 "Consider it all joy, my brother when you encounter various trials, know that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, THAT YOU MAY BE PERFECT, AND COMPLETE, LACKING NOTHING".



We are a work in progress, God is building the house, our faith is going to be tested, and the test of our faith produces endurance, endurance has to complete its job, THAT YOU MAY BE PERFECT AND COMPLETE LACKING NOTHING.



We will always strike for perfection in our jouney with the Lord,



The scriptures says THAT YOU MAY BE PERFECT, it is not saying THAT YOU ARE PERFECT, you will strike for perfection.

We will always be lacking something only Christ can complete us

That is why the scripture says He will continue to work on our souls until Christ comes. Christ is the perfecter of our faith.



MATTHEW 5:48 "Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly father is perfect" This is the walk of faith, walk like your father walk, but it does not make you your father. Gopy His ways.

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 06:03 PM

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect



That is mathew 5:48, you had so much othr stuff written with it I wasnt sure if we were speaking about the same verse



Brother I was not rebuking you on the contrary I was agreeing withyou, i just wanted to point out that being perfect does not mean flawlessness!



Paul said " I am crucified with Christ never the less I live, yet not I but Chriust lives within ,me!



So If I am dead and Christ is living inme, this is the life of christ and I am now completed!



Let me put it this way, I realized when I got saved and cleaned up from years and years of shooting up, oxycontin heroin dilautid, you name it if I could get into a needle I would put it into my arm, morphine whatever for many years, I shot up so much now if they need blood from me they got to fight for it, I have had them draw blood from my radial artery I have had IVs in my feet every part of my body the vains are colapsed, even my knee caps, anyway all tose years I realized that i had been trying to fill a space and I saw that we all have a space inside that is meant for Jesus and those of us who reject him continue on shoving thisngs in that space drugs,driking,sec,gamblind,our families,money our jobs EVERYONE WHO ISNT SAVED DOES IT but its like putting a squar peg into a round hole it doeant fit just right and it leaves gaps of space!



But when Jesus came into my heart there were no more gaps I was then whole, complee and perfect!



If we cant except our perfection or completion just by the Lords work on the cross alone then we are putting ourselfs under the law, I am not in any way saying that holliness isnt important I am saying is its incidental its not a mandate to be saved its the side effect of being saved, WE are perfect because Jesus perfected us, that perfection can nog be about us and how we live it must be about Jesus and what he did. Calvary is wthe blood of Jesus is what makes us perfect not our own works

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 06:06 PM

:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

I wrote the whole thing twice cause I thought I had lost it.. woo wee I am a ding bat

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 06:19 PM

Elisha,

thanks for your testimony, I see this everyday, because I Pastor a Christian Rehabilitation Centre, there is no medication, just Prayer, Bible studies and the believe That the blood of jesus washes as white as snow. I have seen a lot of miracles, thank you for being a witness for what Christ has done and will continue to do in your life. Blessings.

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Posted : 10 Jan, 2012 06:25 PM

Thats my calling, my family owns a huge 5 bedroom 6000 sqft house on 20 acres of land the bed rooms are at least 30X30 I know it sounds hard to believe but it really is that big, and I know one day I am going to turn that plkace into a home for women , not a rehab but place to let the Lord work thats it, I went to a place like tht I lived thee for six moths we never did meetings or more than 2 steps that was confess and repent! Jesus was it, and it worked, I know thats what god will have me to do, and I am going to do it one day, trying not to get into too big a hurry all things in his time

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