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The question is not "Can I loose my salvation", but "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"
Posted : 13 Jan, 2012 06:49 AM

Rom 8:30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.



Even though we are still being sanctified and are yet to be glorified we are deemed declared justified already. Gods elect are upheld by Gods power to preserve not mans power to obey, therefor God can call the elect justified from the very start because our glorification is an inevitable conclusion, God will lead you through the entire process and not abandon those He has chosen.



In Arminian theology it makes perfect sense that you could loose your salvation, after all you chose God and they know mans power to sustain is weak. But nobody can stay the hand of God.



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The question is not "Can I loose my salvation", but "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"
Posted : 13 Jan, 2012 10:01 AM

Well could it be a any clearer to a believer.

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The question is not "Can I loose my salvation", but "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"
Posted : 13 Jan, 2012 10:18 AM

The question [isn't] "Can I loose my Salvation" ? The question [is] "Do you [have] Salvation ?...and the Answer is YES !!! Most definitely !!!



CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS ~



Rom 10:13 " For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.



Receive Faith by Hearing the WORD ~



Rom 10:17 ~ So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.



SEEK THE LORD JESUS IN FAITH ~



But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that [ diligently seek him. ]



THE FATHERS WILL�NOT ONE PERISH AND HIS CHILDREN COME TO REPENTANCE ~



Mat 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.



2Pe 3:9~ The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.



John 6:35-40~ And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

36~ But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.

37~ All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

38~ For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

39~ And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40~ And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.





BECAUSE WE BELONG TO CHRIST JESUS ~ WE ARE ONE WITH & IN HIM & FATHER



John 17:1-26~

1~ These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

2~ As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

3~ And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

4~ I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

5~ And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

6~ I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

7~ [[[ Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.

8~ For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. ]]]

9~ [[[ I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. ]]]

10~ And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

11~ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

12~ While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13~ And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14~ [[[ I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. ]]]

15~ [[[ I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil ]]]

16~ They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17~ Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

18~ As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19~ And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20~ [[[ Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; ]]]

21~ That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22~ And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23~ I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

24~ Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

25~ O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.

26~ And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.



PRAISE GOD & Thank you Sweet Jesus...My LORD & Saviour !!!! xo

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The question is not "Can I loose my salvation", but "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"
Posted : 13 Jan, 2012 10:27 AM

well that is all true jude, but how about sticking to the post?????

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The question is not "Can I loose my salvation", but "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"
Posted : 13 Jan, 2012 10:58 AM

Ya mean the part about "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"



Well...Jesus did lose Judas Iscariot who was also given to Him by Father God...or Maybe Judas Iscariot wasn't really Jesus*...:rolleyes:...Scripture says that satan entered Judas...and satan can not enter a Born Again Believer...Judas turned Away from Christ Jesus for his own Selfish reasons...Greed/Ego/Pride...Selling the Lord Jesus for a measly 30 pieces of Silver...just goes to show that some people can think they are all that and yet...they are not for they have deceived them selves...xo

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The question is not "Can I loose my salvation", but "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"
Posted : 13 Jan, 2012 10:59 AM

Well Donna here response was accurate for the calvinist doctrine has no provision for one to be born again.

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The question is not "Can I loose my salvation", but "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"
Posted : 13 Jan, 2012 11:06 AM

Jude: Maybe Judas Iscariot wasn't really Jesus*......Scripture says that satan entered Judas...and satan can not enter a Born Again Believer



You answered your own statement.



God says he will lose none.

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The question is not "Can I loose my salvation", but "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"
Posted : 13 Jan, 2012 11:26 AM

Donna shared My statement ~ Jude: "Maybe Judas Iscariot wasn't really Jesus*......Scripture says that satan entered Judas...and satan can not enter a Born Again Believer"



and ~ You answered your own statement.

*** YUP !!!...I sure did...cuz Judas "WASNT" Jesus*...he hadnt "Truely" Believed in Christ Jesus nor Accepted HIM (Jesus) as his Savoiur...and ifin yer gonna tell me that GOD [ forced ] Judas to "Reject" Christ Jesus or was created for the purpose of Damnation...Not Truth...the Scripture doesnt say that...satan Entered Judas and caused a Un-Born Again in Holy Spirit to do his bidding...which Jesus Pre-Knew...He told His disiples this over and over again...that He would be Betrayed because He Pre-Knew Judas' Heart...Think about it Donna...does it say Anywhere in the Bible that Judas was Baptized in the River Jordan ???...



and ~ God says he will lose none.



*** Thats True...Judas wasnt GOD's either...Judas was satans...xo

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The question is not "Can I loose my salvation", but "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"
Posted : 13 Jan, 2012 11:31 AM

Not to mention there where none born again at that time.



All where already subject to kingdom of Darkness including the disciples.

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The question is not "Can I loose my salvation", but "Can Jesus loose one of His sheep?"
Posted : 13 Jan, 2012 11:56 AM

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Very TRUE PJ...also...amember Jesus told Peter to Pray lest he enter into Temptation...and also that he...Peter..."would" deny HIM (Jesus) also...a Pre-Known of the Lord Jesus...and...Peter did jus that...afor the [ Rooster ] crews twice...you shall deny ME [Jesus] thrice...the differance betwix Judas & Peter ???...Peter recalled the WORDs of the Lord Jesus...and "Weeped" bittery...Repentance in the Heart...xo

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