Author	Thread: Can a true believer be fooled into believing these doctrines?
dljrn04 View Profile History	Can a true believer be fooled into believing these doctrines? Posted : 21 Jan, 2012 03:12 PM Well I think that answer is clearly yes. A true believer can be fooled into believing unbelievable�unbelievable�mistakes, doctrinally and ethically. If that weren't true we would all be perfect, wouldn't we? It just seems like, yes, we're all mistaken on numerous things. So I guess the question is, "Is it serious enough so that if you embrace it you couldn't be a believer?" And I think the answer to that is no. There are so many people that are being badly taught on these things. And a verse here or a verse there is brought in to say, "Clearly from 3 John he prays toward our prosperity! He wants us to prosper!" People hear that and then the preacher takes it way beyond, saying that prosperity means you're going to have a job. "It'll be a six-figure job and you'll wear a big gold watch like mine and drive a big, fancy, expensive car like mine. And you'll live on the beach like I do and maybe someday have your own jet like I do." Can a true believer be fooled into believing the prosperity gospel? People are taken there. They just see the steps going there and not everybody has a critical mind to say, "That's a non sequitur. That doesn't follow." They just go from the biblical verse that looked pretty clear�God likes us to have our diseases healed and have a job and keep food on our table�and go from there to jet set. And so, since we can be taken astray like that, I think a genuine believer is just blind at that point. And we need to teach. Because it's amazing how many people, when they hear solid teaching, wake up! They don't say, "I just got saved!" They say, "I knew deep down something was wrong. I just couldn't articulate it. It just didn't feel right." I was just reading an online expos�-type thing of a woman who narrated her life in and out of that kind of thing. So, yes, I think God is so merciful to us in our bad ideas about him. And I think, rather than deciding who is a Christian and who is not in regard to the prosperity gospel, we should just be teaching as much truth as we can. Post Reply
View Profile History	Can a true believer be fooled into believing these doctrines? Posted : 22 Jan, 2012 03:01 AM When one speaks of a believer New Guy of course we are talking in light of scripture, so tell me how reasoning leads any one into truth one believes or they do not, for instance by your words you do not believe scripture as it is written so call that what you may the evidence is in your words, it is not a matter in pointing a finger at me it is you getting your life right with God. For George the death you continually try to spread stinks, as death always will but it is your choice because you refuse to believe. The word of God speaks for itself and it will forever. Post Reply
elishabroadway View Profile History	Can a true believer be fooled into believing these doctrines? Posted : 22 Jan, 2012 12:47 PM Did or didnt satan tempt the Lord Jesus with wealth and power? he most definatly can make people wealthy thats a fact jack! Post Reply
View Profile History	Can a true believer be fooled into believing these doctrines? Posted : 22 Jan, 2012 01:24 PM The facts are Jack he is a liar. The fact is he is still God of this world and jesus stripped him of all power. The father knows man's days are numbered on the earth. If Satan would have followed thru with what he said, he would have no longer been in charge, just asying. Post Reply
View Profile History	Can a true believer be fooled into believing these doctrines? Posted : 22 Jan, 2012 01:26 PM While we are discussing Facts take not any biblical leader that followed the lord and ho wealthy the lord made them. Post Reply
View Profile History	Can a true believer be fooled into believing these doctrines? Posted : 22 Jan, 2012 02:19 PM Mathew 7: 15-20 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree can not bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth Good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. The Scripture is Not talking about a false believer. :waving: Post Reply
View Profile History	Can a true believer be fooled into believing these doctrines? Posted : 22 Jan, 2012 02:21 PM Concerning False Prophets. Post Reply
View Profile History	Can a true believer be fooled into believing these doctrines? Posted : 22 Jan, 2012 04:18 PM The purpose of the discernment which is a gift given to all believers through the power of the Holy Spirit, and the soundnes of the true doctrine of Jesus Christ in a believers hearts prevents a belier from believing the lie of a fale doctrine, and from following God's teachings. A believer who is rooted and grounded in rightly dividing the word of God and is is not leaning to his/her OWN understanding of God's word with interpretation instead of revelation from the Holy Spirit CANNOT be fooled by false teachings of false doctrines according to what God says. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect (believers)-IF that were possible. Matthew 24:24 2 John 7. I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work. Post Reply

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