Author Thread: Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 31 Jan, 2012 05:49 PM

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Posted : 30 Jan, 2012 07:01 AM



Elisha said





That is what I ben trying to say newguy . PJ just cause I dont agree with you does not mean automaticly that I am in unbelief because to classify me in unbelief on a given subject you must first decide a few things #1 maybe you are wrong



(which is what I think on the subject of prosperity) #2 its possible that you have been mislead or decieved which would still make you wrong but someone else decieved you (i think you figured out the le on your own) #3 we are having a misunderstanding and you are not understanding what it is i am trying to say or vise versa you have several times completly ignored my statements that TV evangilists prey on por people by convincing them they wont be poor anymore if they send what little they have , I didint say all prosperity ws wrong just that doctrine in which the intent is self gain and not just love for the Lord and others a doctrine in which your soul purpose in giving is to increase yourself is completly contrary to the gospel of Christ and the Laws in which He said we are to Love others we are to be denying self so if we are giving just so we can recieve thats sin!!







who disagrees with that last statement





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Posted : 30 Jan, 2012 07:17 AM





Jesus did not figure himself out wrong, now you did it again Elisha you see you want to be wrong, it is not hard to enter into unbelief.



There will always be job's comforters







It is a choice to walk in faith and only those that walk in faith please the father.







Jesus is man's prosperity to whom will believe.







No I did not get it wrong by believing in the lord Jesus and his redemption and no amount of the mocking and scorning and unbelief will change his word.







To love him all will have to forsake his opinion's and accept the truth of the word of God.







In case you not sure what I have said, The gospel is prosperity and prosperity to every aspect of unbelief.

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 05:58 AM

PJ you are saying a bunch of emty words I dont agree with your opinion, I do agree with Jesus, you are PJ not Jesus!



I am not required to agree with you

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 06:20 AM

None of the scriptures you listed have any thing to do with money.



Many people are guilty are guilty of those scriptures and do not have any money.



Those that don't tithe are guilty of such.

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 06:26 AM

It doesnt have anything to do with hving money rather the way you aquire it, and the way your heart feels towards it!



It is most definatly about money though, The man who jesus toild to give his stuff to the poor loved his money moe than Jesus



THey are about money and I told yo I am aware that hagving money does not make you evil, I am not stupid PJ



You still havent stated one scripture that supports a health and wealth doctrine like joel ossteen and the others are preaching

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 06:30 AM

Yes I have Elisha I exhorted you to study the word for your self, when you do your eyes will be opened.

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 06:57 AM

OH DARN read the bible?ow thats a novel Idea I had never thought of that!!



come on PJ you should know by now I do study!



It has nothing to do with that its a matter of claiming to what you believe because you love money so much you are not willing to accept what the word says about it

and I didnt say the word says money is evil but desireing it is evil lusting after it is evil and using the situations that the poor re in is evil



and poor people can be just as saved at the rich



becomeing saved doesnt mean you will become rich it only means you rneeds will be met if you trust him and your heart is right





NOw I have to stop arguing because I HAVE A JOB the I HAVE TO BE AT IN !) MINTS yall have a great day

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 07:31 AM

It has nothing to do with that its a matter of claiming to what you believe because you love money so much you are not willing to accept what the word says about it.



This is an example of your hardned heart against the truth, I have no love of money. You are assuming a lot and there is no truth in it.



and I didnt say the word says money is evil but desireing it is evil lusting after it is evil and using the situations that the poor re in is evil



I have not one time mentioned money Elisha it has been you every time, seems as if you have an obsession with it.



I have always said prosperity and you get into money.



and poor people can be just as saved at the rich



Yes Elisha poor people can be saved why do you keep saying that, why do you bring many things that have not been said.



Btw this last statement is not in agreement with covenant.

and poor people can be just as saved at the rich



becomeing saved doesnt mean you will become rich it only means you rneeds will be met if you trust him and your heart is right





Study to show yourself approved that you will not be ashamed.



I had my fit about carnality in 1985 and then the lord told me to sit down and look up scriptures on the word prosper.



Very quickly I repented and shut my mouth.....

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 09:39 AM

Those are some very wise words, Elisha. You couldn't have made a clearer point if you tried.







But the words and stance you make will go unheeded, sister. The Word says that if you try correct a fool you will end up exhausted to no avail. Just let it go and wipe the virtual dust off your eFeet, Elisha.



You'd be doing yourself and your spirit a whole lot of good in doing so, because nothing good can come out of trying to straighten something that is naturally bent.



May the peace of our Lord Jesus be upon you, my sister.



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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 11:15 AM

Agapeton the word defines a fool as one that does not believe.



For instance here is a scripture that is often posted on this site as referring to all of mankind and of course it does not, but those that have applied there own understanding to it are being foolish. Romans 3:11- 3:12



Not being a doer of the word.2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.





Ro 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Ro 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Ro 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:



Another example of one being foolish is those that proclaim tithing is not new testament.



That is also an example of those that trust in riches.

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 01:26 PM

PJ, can you please point me to a verse in the New Testament where it says to tithe, please?







Thanks much.









Oh. By the way, so I notice that you till haven't provided anything to support your beliefs other than rhetoric accompanied with out of context Scripture to show for it, bro.





I'd pick and choose the battles wiser, if I were you, bro, because it isn't very flattering to you if several people show you to be one at once.



Then again, it does prove you to be exactly what you think you aren't, so....











Nevermind.











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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 1 Feb, 2012 01:31 PM

Elisha I would love to give the advice you gave me months ago. DON"T waste your time on pj he belongs to a cult. All he spreads is lies and hatred to God's people. God will deal with him in his own time. You have tried your best to reprove him as many others on this site. Now it is up to the Holy spirit to convict his spiritually dead heart.

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