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Posted : 16 Feb, 2012 11:21 PM

The cross redeemed us from the curse of the law through Jesus Christ who became a curse for us, and this is what Paul was trying to get through to the Galatian church, that the law brought no hope, but the cross and the death of Jesus cross is our only hope of glory.

Jesus paid the price for our freedom so that we would not perish or suffer the penalty of death for our sins because of our disobedience.

God has only one message-the gospel of Christ. In light of Galatians 1:6-9, what were Paul�s belief about someone preaching "another gospe"? What is another goepsl?

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Posted : 17 Feb, 2012 05:56 PM

Et, I see your point. I gave a back drop of when, where, and why the epistle was written by Paul to the Galatians. That is why I asked you if you wanted to look within the book of Galatians after I explained the fact that the Gentiles, who were already strangers (Eph. 2:15; Col. 2:14) to statutes, ordinance, and decrees of the FULL Law of the Jews as the Jews themselves also were through Christ ( 2 Cor. 3). Paul was upset at the fact that the Gentiles were deceived and were reverting back to the Law and were separating themselves from Christ in doing so, because he knew that if they agreed to get circumcised then they were liable to KEEP THE WHOLE LAW OF THE10 COMMANDMENTS WHICH WAS THE SEAL AND FOUNDATION OF THE OLD COVENANT that God made with the Jews.



His whole gospel was set on Christ. And through Christ:

"We are not under the law" (Rom. 6:14; Gal. 5:18).

We are dead to the law (Rom. 7:4).

We are delivered from the law (Rom. 7:6).

Christ is the end of the law (Rom. 10:4).

"Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ .... we are no longer under a schoolmaster" (Gal. 3:24, 25).

"The law" has been abolished (Eph. 2:15).





This suffice, or shall we go further into the book of Galatians, ET?





Oh, by the way, sister Shalom. The Noahide Laws that the proselytes had to follow then and in the book of the Acts did not entail following the 10 commandments, sister. Because they were strictly for the Jews as a covenant between them and God.

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Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 05:24 AM

Are the Churches of America preaching another Gospel than the one Jesus taught and the Apostles preached? Is the reality of Christ's resurrection and rulership being rejected for a Gospel of prosperity, greed and compromise. Who would have though 30 years ago that so many of the nations major denominations would be seriously debating allowing homosexual 'unions', and that some would adopt such practices as 'Church' doctrine. The reality is now that the Bible, and the risen Christ have been abandoned for the Gospel of humanism and social/political acceptance. The truth of the matter is, these denominations are no longer part of the body of Christ. They have in essence become part of the world system and actively participate in furthering the objectives of the Prince of this world. These unrepentant and publicly displayed abominations have separated these clergymen, pastors and parishioners from Christ.



There is a separation coming to pass in visible Christianity. Many christian's have left mainline denominations and are seeking out home Churches and less formal fellowship arrangements. The simple fact is, those who are truly following the commandments of Christ (not the commandments of men) see the great apostasy happening right before their eyes. They are concerned enough for their own soul to stay away from these new 'doctrines of devils' ,"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils" 1 Timothy 4:1. The Scripture does not teach about a world wide 'revival', though God did promise to 'pour out his spirit on all flesh'. While a real revival amoung God's people will happen, it will only come to God's People who are in Christ. The truth of the matter is that while mainstream Christianity is looking for a revival, they have left the God who brings it.



Previously, strange doctrines were expected to be found and were largely confined to such groups as the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses, though often these strange doctrines were not openly displayed as they are in many mainline denominations today. These, and other religions attempted to hide their more anti-Christian doctrines from public view. Today it is mainstream Christianity that has been seduced by the enemy, openly displaying vices clearly condemned by the Jesus they claim to adore "If ye love me, keep my commandments"



The Mormons for example called Christianity a religion that was 'hatched in hell' (John Taylor, the Third Mormon President) . Where as the Jehovah's witnesses deny the divinity of Christ. It is interesting to note that both to these religions were started by Freemasons. (Russell for the Jehovah's Witnesses and Joseph Smith for the Mormons). Yet today, many of the largest so-called 'Christian' denominations are led by men who are Freemasons. Many well known TV evangelists with National Ministries are involved in this dark and secretive religion.



The faith once passed down to us by Jesus and the Apostles has been polluted by leaders who do not know Christ. Their agenda is something other than bringing God's little flock into the Kingdom of God. This trend really began during the 1940's and 1950's. One of the most important clergyman to influence the current trends in the Church was Teilhard de Chardin. He was a Catholic Priest who was not allowed to publish his writings by the Vatican and was treated as an Apostate. This man's work however was talked about in both Catholic and Protestant Circles and his influence is still greatly felt today. His 'Gospel' was of Humanism and 'Global Evolution'.



This Global evolution is part and parcel of the problem with the New American Gospel. Pastors and Priests are seeing themselves as more enlightened that Christ and have decided to take it upon themselves to change the essence of the Christianity they preach and profess.



This should not be a surprise to those who know their Bible. How could these things NOT happen when Christ so clearly said they would? The openly sinful acts on the part of those who use the name of Christianity is an Abomination to God. These are actions which will require and receive a response from God at the proper time. God's slowness in dealing with these charlatans is giving them space to repent of their deeds and perhaps join (or rejoin) the faith.



One doctrine that needs to be briefly discussed in the concept of 'visualization'. This is the general Idea behind some of the popular faith teachers of our time. This visualization is the root of the positive thinking and the some of the 'name it and claim it' doctrines of today. Visualization is a very ancient form of Occult science. It was practiced by the Ancient Egyptians and is the foundation for many Yoga Techniques. This doctrine as it it is taught by some purports that we can change our surroundings with the 'right mental images' or by repeating certain phrases that will magically bring about the desired results. This is how some of faith teachers of today are presenting the Gospel to their followers. By using certain mental techniques and phraseology, the novice can receive the material things that they desire, according to these teachers. Usually this is presented by using a watered down message of salvation and liberally using the name 'Jesus'. This gives the impression that the person is of God.



The doctrines of much of the Church has also been watered down with an ungodly an adulterous relationship with the state. Most people do not know that the IRS clause that the most Churches use to obtain their tax-exempt status is keeping the Church from fulfilling one of its key purposes here on Earth as a light to the world. A light meant to shine in dark places. Yet the Churches who have accepted this status from the Government are in a dangerous position, as they are now a corporation and as such are bound by certain laws that otherwise would not apply to God's flock. For example, these Churches are forbidden to oppose public policy. Public policy is considered to be things like the condition of the Public Schools or the Abortion issue and many other such issues. While some pastors will speak about such things, they will usually not do so from the pulpit or use church funds or the church name when doing so. This is the problem with being unequally yoked together with Caesar as most American Churches have done. This is not to say that every Church that has accepted this status is evil. Rather, it suggests a popular form of compromise with the the state for the sake of special tax status and the financial gain it gives without properly gauging what is being given up in return.



The question is often asked, silently: why is the church so impotent to change many of the trends in society, such as abortion, political corruption, the general acceptance of homosexuality and the like? The answer does not lie, as many have accused, with an uncaring God, but with a church that is involved deeply in each of the above mentioned sins. God expects and demands Holiness, that is separation to God, it is not an option as many in the pulpits in America suggest. This Holiness is not in wearing certain clothing and following a do's and don'ts list but in doing the commandments of God. The Church has decided by and large that those things are not relevant and thus show their contempt for Jesus. Consequently when prayers are offered to stop the flood of moral filth which engulfs our society, God does not act. But then, how can he? There is no holy Church to intercede for the Nation. A few scattered fellowships and individuals yes, but these are, by and large, not to be found in the mainline denominations. What a tragedy, for both the mainline denominations and the nation as a whole.



"For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"



http://www.markswatson.com/WebSite/AnotherGospel.htm

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Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 06:54 AM

Shalom when You post such an article, it should be obvious the agenda behind the one writing.



Would this man you suppose cast out a devil?

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Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 09:06 AM

Has anyone read the Book of Galatians to know and spiritually understand what is really going on here.

Scamming through articles on the internet and coping and pasting what someone else is saying about this books, does not prove that you truly understand or have read the Book of Galatians, and it shows in the responses...there is no spiritual linsight or knowledge being given on this topic, just coping and pasting what someone else has written, and nothing beyond.

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Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 09:13 AM

Agapeton, can you explain in your own words and not bits and pieces from articles, for the sakes of the discussion how Paul equated justify with being blessed?

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Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 10:31 AM

ETcallhome Posted: Agapeton, can you explain in your own words and not bits and pieces from articles, for the sakes of the discussion how Paul equated justify with being blessed?



ME: Honey, do me a favor and post the link of the Article that has ANY SIMILARITY TO WHAT I SAID by just copying everything I said and then googling it and you'll SEE THAT IT CAME ALL FROM ME through the Holy Spirit, sister. You really have a hard time trying to think that no one BUT YOU has anything worthy to say and expound upon when it comes to the Word of God. If this is NOT sufficient for you then how about YOU get to the point you are trying to make before insulting some people?



Seriously, ET, I'm earnestly praying for that contentious spirit of Jezebel to take flight, my sister. I love you with the utmost sincerity and luxury that has been bestowed upon me through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and hope that He continues to open your heart and mind in obedience to Him.

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Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 12:55 PM

Agapeton, it is not the Spirit of God speaking thru you, it is the opinion's of your mind and flesh.



Love would never respond as you do continually, and to clarify it is one thing to be called to teach the word of God and it is another to be in agreement with the word of God and The spirit of Truth, until you yield to him and spiritual authority you are in strife with him.

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Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 01:34 PM

Question remians: ETcallhome Posted: Agapeton, can you explain in your own words and not bits and pieces from articles, for the sakes of the discussion how Paul equated justified (corrected from justify to justified) with being blessed?

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Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 02:21 PM

ETcallhome Posted : Question remians: ETcallhome Posted: Agapeton, can you explain in your own words and not bits and pieces from articles, for the sakes of the discussion how Paul equated justified (corrected from justify to justified) with being blessed?



ME: The question may be corrected in this post but the contentious spirit obviously seems to be something that has not been even paid attention to..





How much the Lord is pleased with you, ET. For an older woman who claims to be a teacher and elder in the faith should display such poor actions worthy of Christ.





May the Lord have mercy on your soul.

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Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 03:45 PM

Explain the question Agageotn, and STOP TRYING to second guess what God might or might not be thinking about me, or what I might not or might not think about what God thinks of me. You tend to always get into God's business, what's up with you?...

Answer your own question about yourself and see if God is indeed pleased with your conduct and behavior and words you speak negatively to others... Is God well pleased with you? You are getting on my last nerve with your SELF -RIGHTEOUS HALF-SHELLED EGO!!

This thread is not about what YOU think of me or I think of you, so stop preaching another gospel, and explain how Paul equates being justified with being blessed as it relates to the Galatians receiving the false gospel of circumcisim the Judaizers were teaching in the church. Or else stop posting your foolishness of your opinions as to what you think of me, and others who disagree with you and how you understadn scriptures! Go a move on ya! Do you know when to stop or is it personally necessary that you have the last word, to make you feel good inside! If so you can have the last word on this thread, becasue you ain't saying nothing no way but your own opiniosn about people you know nothing about!

Sweetheart, I consider myself in good company with Jesus and Paul and the other apostles and disciples, because the scriptures forewarns us that these thing would be and it has yet to fail that such as you keep spuring out, comes from those who oppose the truth, and can't take being anyone disagreeing with them, sound like ego and pride problems to me that you must ocnsider overcoming...

I've been around toooooo long from the low in power to the high in mighty to allow your words to even effect me...you were just born yesterday and most likely just came into SOMESENSE OF KNOWLEDGE OF JESUS CHIRST, the day before... So lets get on with what the Bible is teaching and not your egotistical opinions and stop dealing with your faulty ego and self-righteous condemning pride.

I am not obligated to respond inwardly or feel or receive your negativity. It bothers me none whatsoever becasue I know who I am in Christ and who Christ is in me, so I've got my positoons in order

What it really does, it just show your inner being, and reminds me of the woman Paul had to rebuke in the book of Acts. Just remember, they talk about Jesus and Paul, and said all manner of things against their teachings and their personhood, so what's new and who am I to receive or respond to what you think or say about me?

Either you know and can explain what I am seeking for discussion or you don't! If you don't then explain what you do know so there will be learning and edifcation going on and not your insolent comments.

Having a negative word on every thing somebody ask or says in disagreement with your thoughts, does not change the facts that you either know the answers or you don't!

And if you don't know the answers stop trying to project, reflect, and redirect the attendtion off of you by trying to belittle me or others, can't you see BAD MOUTHING ME AIN'T WORKING, SO FIND ANOTHER STRATEGY OF ATTACK! Is this how you deal with those who disagree with your opinions? I would say yes, otherwise you would not think you are being upright in your negative behavior.

But all that you're doing is belittling yourself and shpwinf off the real you in conduct and behavior, as Paul says a divisive person condmens him/herself with their own mouth! No one on this forum is impressed with what you say negatively about me, Angel or PJ or anyone else who disagrees with you... yet you profess your own self rightouesness in Christ. Get a grip dude!

Either you're going to discussion this topic or you're not! And if your'e not then save your smart mouth remarks for someone who is intimidated and impressed by your immature childress flip-flopping folly!

Your filibustering doesn't impress me! As I have always said on this forum, I was taught as a child, you can always tell if a person really knows what he/she is talking about from either knowledge or experience by what they speak in giving answers and how they respond to questions asked of them... now you go figure out your conduct and behvaior and ppray and ask the Lord to help YOU before you go praying for something you have not found yourself to be an overcomer in... when you become an overcomer in how you respond to those who disagre with you, then YOU reahc back and helpy your brothers and sisters to become overcomer as well!:glow::hearts:

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