Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 10:18 AM
Are trying to "EVANGELIZE" in this and other forums? I mean seriously.
I've been reading some people's topics here and they seem to be acting as if they are in a pagan country and have to evangelize by preaching every doctrine but that of the life, death, resurrection and the forgiveness of sins we have received through his shedding his blood on the cross and the eternal life with God and the reconciliation of a relationship we will receive if we believe upon Him.
I've not seen any here trying to encourage others in topics. I have seen many try to separate themselves from each other here though. Ironically enough the person that unites us all is hardly ever the similarity or the object of of use to bring us together here.
I admit, I am a teacher, so I try to ask questions to get one to pay attention to something in full before they respond.( By the way, people. I'm giving you a hint as to WHY I make topics now so please don't go all Pharisitical and start condemning. ) I do this to try to get people to respond so that there is something to be learned by all and occasionally correct a stumbling sibling. BUT MAN! I've seen more people call others non-believers here and question whether the person is Spirit filled! Talk about some serious misapplication of Scripture and Godlike principles that the Word speaks of. I mean, since when did Paul EVER question whether the believers were spirit filled in the stumbling congregations he addressed his rebuke to?
And this debate and arguing stuff that I've been seeing here? How passive aggressive is that? People just throwing out verses in a strong arming brow beating manner to have the other in submissive surrender to a misapplied with out any explanation except:
You're an unbeliever.
You're not spiritually mature like I am.
Who is your teacher?
I'm going to pray for you and you should pray for me.
You are a non-repentant sinner.
You don't have the Holy Spirit.
Don't question me because you are a trouble maker.
Don't question things in the Bible because your faith is not strong enough or not really in the right standing.
I'm not going to listen to anything you say because you don't believe the same as me.
Your spirit is unclean.
You are spiritually ignorant.
You think too much.
Don't think at all.
You are not worth listening to.
I don't know about you but all these traits are something that Jesus rebuked the Pharisee for doing in the Gospels. So WHY as Christians, are we all doing this here when our Lord Strictly rebuked those who did such things?
Where is our child like ability to listen to one another and our God given patience to not react and STUDY for OURSELVES as to what God tells us INDIVIDUALLY through HIS SPIRIT so that He can be FULLY MANIFEST in OUR COLLECTIVE UNITY to express HIS OVERABUNDANT RICHES instead of go to someone else other than the Holy Spirit that makes you understand the very words on your Bible?
Again, Why are you here?
If it is to evangelize then this forum isn't the place cause there are only a very few people that read this things so GO and preach Christ in the WORLD. But if we constantly gather in a place where we see EVERYONE FOLLOW THE SAME CHRIST then LET US ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPIRIT OF PEACE THAT IS IN US and actively DISPLAY nothing but LOVE to the one who is CALLED and CALLS upon THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
May the taste of Lord Jesus Christ be the constant taste on your lips other than coffee this morning. And may His EXAMPLE be the sustenance that your stomach is nourished by as you inspect the fruit that you bring to and from your mouth.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 04:25 PM
A man that is a student of the word, would not try and manipulate anyone with a scripture as you just did.
We need to repeat it again The ministry Gifts are subject to first receiving the author of The gifts.
How is it any can think they are greater than the lord Jesus and not need the power of God to live the Christian life, and then place themselves in one of the ministry Gifts.
Eph 4:8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
These Gifts are all in The One Gift: The promise of The father- "The Gift of The Holy Ghost".
This is the source of the anointing that came upon Jesus when he was baptized in water, the anoint comes upon The Believers that receive The baptism of "The Holy Ghost"
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 04:30 PM
But can you show me where this woman pastor or teacher is in Scripture, sister so that I can repent?
Paul did not allow a woman to be an Official teacher in the assembled church. This is indicated by the added restrictions concerning exercising Authority over a Man. Functioning as a Bishop or Elder.
For Adam was fist then Eve
I Timothy 2:12-13
So this one scripture gives you the right to Run down woman teachers because YOU know who God calls to teach and whom he does not !!!!
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 04:56 PM
So, when I see someone teaching something that does not go in accordnace with the Word of GOd shall I just let this teaching go and make others stumble?
Or shall I follow my Lord and Savior to rebuke, comfort, and admonish the person? :excited:
You need Correction yourself. Sounds like you lead
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 04:58 PM
PJ, You have shown yourself to be nothing but a judge and a person of strife. Your profile shows it. Anything else that comes out of you is, and will continue to be deemed as such.
All I can do is praise the Lord on High because He is faithful to show the true intents of the hearts of the ones who cause strife here, because it is evident from the number of many topics only made by them. If God was being glorified here by you all the forum would be growing. But has it?
Angelforlove: Paul did not allow a woman to be an Official teacher in the assembled church. This is indicated by the added restrictions concerning exercising Authority over a Man. Functioning as a Bishop or Elder.
For Adam was fist then Eve
So this one scripture gives you the right to Run down woman teachers because YOU know who God calls to teach and whom he does not !!!!
I Timothy 2:12-13
1Ti 2:9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,
1Ti 2:10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness--with good works.
1Ti 2:11 Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness.
1Ti 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve;
1Ti 2:14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.
1Ti 2:15 Yet she will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.
Co 14:32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets.
1Co 14:33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,
1Co 14:34 the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.
1Co 14:35 If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
ME: So, Angel. Really. Can you show me where this woman pastor or teacher is in Scripture, sister so that I can repent if there is something that says so?
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 05:03 PM
PJ, You have shown yourself to be nothing but a judge and a person of strife. Your profile shows it. Anything else that comes out of you is, and will continue to be deemed as such.
All I can do is praise the Lord on High because He is faithful to show the true intents of the hearts of the ones who cause strife here, because it is evident from the number of many topics only made by them. If God was being glorified here by you all the forum would be growing. But has it?
Angelforlove: Paul did not allow a woman to be an Official teacher in the assembled church. This is indicated by the added restrictions concerning exercising Authority over a Man. Functioning as a Bishop or Elder.
For Adam was fist then Eve
So this one scripture gives you the right to Run down woman teachers because YOU know who God calls to teach and whom he does not !!!!
I Timothy 2:12-13
1Ti 2:9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,
1Ti 2:10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness--with good works.
1Ti 2:11 Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness.
1Ti 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve;
1Ti 2:14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.
1Ti 2:15 Yet she will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.
Co 14:32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets.
1Co 14:33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,
1Co 14:34 the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.
1Co 14:35 If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
ME: So, Angel. Really. Can you show me where this woman pastor or teacher is in Scripture, sister so that I can repent if there is something that says so?
I am asking you in all humility and truth.
So, when I see someone teaching something that does not go in accordnace with the Word of GOd shall I just let this teaching go and make others stumble?
Or shall I follow my Lord and Savior to rebuke, comfort, and admonish the person?
Angellove: You need Correction yourself. Sounds like you lead yourself.
And yet, I gave you opportunity to correct me and you have not done so?
Again, can you point me to which part I have committed error enough for you to question my spirit within me or to call me an unbeliever, sister?
If so, please post it here so that I can repent from it.
Thank you, my dear sister for your words of admonishment in advance.
And just in case there is none then I also forgive you in advance for your rash judgement, condemnation and false witness you did to my person and our God's Spirit in advance also.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 10:54 PM
agapeton, I must say I have to agree with you about women in the church the definatly shouldnt be pastors at all, and I am not real clear on what you think about women teaching sunday school to children and other women but I think thats ok, as women should be teaching the children and other women tjhat only makes sence, and I believe that the scripture is speaking against women being teachers of men, but women should KNOW THEIR PLACE in the church and at home its a place of submission, and thats right dressing modestly adorning ourselfs with Christ Jesus!!
Its funny as I read this thread and see how hearts are exposesd right off the bat!! Nobody being led by the spirit of God should be calling people who claim Christ unbe;lieves if you believe someone is wrong or decieved you should correct them gently nt by name calling and prideful comments.
I have given up corecting people on their false gospels false doctrins ,doctrins of devils, and their false leaders and hirlings, seems they like being decieved GO FIGURE!! i guess its true what they say, when people reject the truth they will be;live the lie(s) people want to believe the garbage they bel;ieve it does tickle their ears (i think that means they want to hear it and it sounds good to their flesh)
agpeton you are dead on with this thread brother:applause:
