Author	Thread: The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus)
Admin	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 29 Feb, 2012 02:57 PM A promise is defined as a divine assurance. All promise are guaranteed by the Lord Heb 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. 2nd Cor 1:20 But as God is true, our word toward you was not yea and nay. 2nd Cor 1:19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea. 2nd Cor 1:20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us. This irrevocable promise is to whosoever believeth on him will receive eternal life. JN 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: JN 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. JN 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. JN 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. JN 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. JN 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. Post Reply
View Profile History	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 09:29 AM Well ?you made it clear and that is the whole point you do not receive the simplicity of The word of God, nor do you in any way agree with the truth of jn 3:16 No one can submit to reformation theology and then walk in the light of the word of God as he is in the light it is impossible. No man can serve two master's. Post Reply
View Profile History	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 10:02 AM I agree with John 3:16 as I've repeated over and over. However you are claiming it says something that it doesn't. You say that it says Jesus died to save everyone. You also say that is says everyone can be saved. You have not once broken down the verse to show where it says either of these things. I on the other hand have kept the simplistic meaning intact for you. I fail to see how you adding to the text turns into me adding to the text. You are placing your faults on me. By grace alone we have been save, not of ourselves. It doesn't get more simplistic than that. Let the scripture speak. I don't submit to reformation theology. I submit to the word. Tell me how these two quotes of yours go together. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. "No one is trying to attack any Calvinist for that would not be in agreement with walking in love by faith." "No one can submit to reformation theology and then walk in the light of the word of God as he is in the light it is impossible." Contradiction I would say... Post Reply
View Profile History	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 10:40 AM Well of course you would say it is a contradiction. That was known before it was said and thus why all was said that was said. I know and all that have the tulip know that Calvinism teaches that man without God can not believe the word of God. The bible teaches and illustrates man from the time of the fall up until the start of the church, and into the church That man pleased God by faith, and faith is the same in all cases and illustrations there is only one kind of bible faith. Post Reply
View Profile History	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 10:47 AM The bible teaches that faith was a gift... 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God Ephesians 2:8 http://waysidegospelchapel.blogspot.com/2012/02/faith-is-gift-of-god.html Post Reply
View Profile History	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 11:02 AM No Calvinism teaches that faith is a gift. Bible faith is clearly taught but it must be caught. The answer is again in the parable of the sower Post Reply
View Profile History	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 11:08 AM I just showed you where the bible teaches faith is a gift. You are too caught up in doctrine and denomination. Post Reply
View Profile History	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 11:29 AM No what you showed was what you are told to believe. I can not boast but as the word says I am able to teach on the topic of faith, and if you know the topic you know it is subject to the will of man. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 01:24 PM If Christ on His cross intended to save every man, then He intended to save those who were lost before He died. If the doctrine be true, that He died for all men, then He died for some who were in Hell before He came into this world, for doubtless there were even then myriads there who had been cast away because of their sins. . . That seems to me a conception a thousand times more repulsive than any of those consequences which are said to be associated with the Christian doctrine of particular redemption. To think that my Savior died for men who were or are in Hell, seems a supposition too horrible for me to entertain." - Charles Spurgeon Post Reply
View Profile History	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 02:01 PM I wasn't told to believe anything. In fact if I was told to believe something it was what you have have told me. I grew up in southern baptist churches and believed as they taught until I studied for myself. Nobody told me to believe faith was a gift. They told me opposite. I posted the verse that says faith was a gift. I gave clarification of that verse by providing a link for you. You are choosing to remain ignorant. "If you know the topic, you know it is subject to the will of man" who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:13...I guess you do not know the topic. One side here has consistently presented scripture. PJ all you keep doing is saying you know scripture. Repeatedly you have refused to give scripture that agrees with you saying that if you have God in you, you already know the truth. Would not God want you to correct your brothers and sisters? You do not do them justice when you refuse to correct them from the word. Post Reply
View Profile History	The Promise Of God Are Yes And Amen In Him (Jesus) Posted : 1 Mar, 2012 03:34 PM To think that my Savior died for men who were or are in Hell, seems a supposition too horrible for me to entertain." - Charles Spurgeon *** I believe no one (human) is in Hell at this moment...only the Fallen Angels that have been bound there by GOD...no one goes to Hell (The Second Death) Hebrew ~ (Resurrection of the Dead) until the LAST Judgement and we all stand afor GOD and Give Account of Everything we've done...which has yet to occure as in OT and NT Revelations...xo Post Reply

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