Author	Thread: truth vs tradition 1
FocusIsEverything View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 6 Apr, 2012 07:18 PM How can we not be under the law if jesus didn't abolish the law? He said he didn't come to abolish but to fulfill. No temple exist today so its obvious about excluding temple ceremonial stuff. But, doesn't the rest apply? scripture says we are under grace not under the law ....and it goes onto say god forbid if we do away with the law. So how does the permit us not to oBserve it. heaven and earth shall pass away but my words will never pass away....and so many other scriptures.....I'm starting to believe that we christians don't want the truth we just want our cozy comfy pretty manmade traditions that involve pausing from this world to drink and eat of vain pagan traditions and put a christian label on it Post Reply
View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 10 Apr, 2012 11:01 AM What were the "original" NT teachings ???...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 10 Apr, 2012 11:31 AM That would be the NT... Post Reply
View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 10 Apr, 2012 11:37 AM :rolleyes:...I guess ya missed my point of the question so I will answer the question I asked...The "original" NT teachings are Jesus* teachings which also included teachings of the OT and not mans/womens interpretations or traditions there of...thats Biblical !!!...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 10 Apr, 2012 11:41 AM Right, so you agree with me when I speak against Catholic tradition Post Reply
View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 10 Apr, 2012 02:25 PM Romans 7: 9-14: "For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10. And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. 12. Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. 13. Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. 14. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin." Romans 7: 24-25 "O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25. I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin." The moral law was not done away with, because God is a righteous God, and we are flesh. In Genesis 3: 1-6 Satan deceived Eve and Adam followed, giving Satan some dominion over man's flesh, and so now our flesh wars against the Spirit. "For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would." "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." I Corinthians 2; 14 But what Paul in Romans 7 is leading up to is Romans 8. "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:.....Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." Romans 8: 1-3, 8-9. As Christ told the Pharisee Nicodemus in John 3; 1-6, you must be born again by the Holy Spirit to see the spiritual kingdom of God. When you are led by the Spirit, who will not disobey the moral law, and he is in your heart and mind, then there is no more condemnation for you from the moral law. The moral law still exists to convict us of sin. When we are convicted of sin and repent, we can receive the Holy Spirit. But without the moral law being still in effect, and our being broken by it before a righteous God, we cannot receive the Spirit and have the moral law in our hearts and mind to obey it. We must repent of sin before God and turn from it. Under the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31: 31, Hebrews 8: 10), we have the moral law in ourselves and the desire to obey it, and by help from the Lord, if we need that. But in the dialectic church, where the majority are tares, not many are born again, though hey may think they are because they attend church. Post Reply
View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 11 Apr, 2012 08:23 AM NO!!!...I do not agree with anyone Speaking Against the "Catholic Church's" Traditions...it is not my place to "Judge" them....it is my place to "Live in the Truth" and Do what Christ Jesus has commanded...All that He has commanded...and its not an easy path to drudge...struggling just everyone else that has taken up thier cross to follow Him... I do Agree with the brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus that Understand that "Traditions" of man/women are NOT Biblical and NOT of GOD...regardless of what denomination or label they have been given or claim to be under...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 11 Apr, 2012 09:58 AM Focus shared ~ I'm starting to believe that we christians don't want the truth we just want our cozy comfy pretty manmade traditions that involve pausing from this world to drink and eat of vain pagan traditions and put a christian label on it *** I believe you are 1/2 right on this...Christians seek Truth in Christ Jesus...they Thirst and Hunger for it...those that fall into the cozy comfy...etc...have fallen into a "religion" and not into a "relationship" with GOD/Jesus...they ebb and flow with the masses of people in the world knowing "of" GOD/Jesus yet not "knowing" Him...and believe they are "Christian"...just sharing a personal observation inline with what you have observed in your journey with the LORD...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 11 Apr, 2012 02:12 PM Just want to urge men here when you are talking about the Church which are made up of true God-fearing, Bible believing, Christ centered, blood brought Christians, you are talking about the precious bride of Christ. With regard to apostates, heretics, unbelievers, etc. it is entirely a different matter but even when one talks about them you should proceed with caution evaluating our motives to see if we are talking from a pure heart. But when we backbite, slander, accuse, and all the like to his flock remember you are doing it to Christ (Matt 25:40, 45). When one takes the position to exhort, admonish, teach please bear in mind that all these things be done to edification. I will end with this Jas 3:10-18 Out of the same mouth proceeds blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. (11) Does a fountain send forth at the same hole the sweet and the bitter? (12) Can the fig tree, my brothers, bear olive berries; or a vine, figs? So no fountain can yield both salt water and fresh. (13) Who is wise and knowing among you? Let him show his works by his good conduct with meekness of wisdom. (14) But if you have bitter jealousy and strife in your hearts, do not glory and lie against the truth. (15) This is not the wisdom coming down from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. (16) For where envying and strife are, there is confusion and every foul deed. (17) But the wisdom that is from above is first truly pure, then peaceable, gentle, easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. (18) And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace. Please abstain from every appearance of evil 1Thess. 5:22. Post Reply
View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 11 Apr, 2012 06:16 PM Well I never said there weren't any Catholic believers. However, many traditions of the Catholic church aren't scriptural and we can judge that. I'm not sure why you say we cannot judge that. Post Reply
View Profile History	truth vs tradition 1 Posted : 12 Apr, 2012 09:43 AM Sure...wether to be apart of it or not...:rolleyes:...I believe people spend way to much time on judging and gruding against others...which brings to :excited: mind a scripture from James...Christ Jesus brother...maybe this well help in the why I believe it not well for us to judge those here on earth... Jam 5:9 ~ Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door. the Judge is Christ Jesus...not us...xo Post Reply

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