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Admin	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 01:32 AM Video addressing a few of the errors in the WoF movement... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ExN3wZ7Ntc&feature=player_embedded Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 02:49 PM Any person and especially a professed Christian can't acess info until (all) the info presented is reviewd...I watched the whole vidio...Thanxs Ryan...It is very informative about how far the Health and Wealthers take thier own "Interpretation" of "Doctrine"...sounds a wee bit like "Urantia" book teachings...Its not Biblical and its Not Focused on Christ Jesus as LORD...xo Jude just so you will know when one Says it is all about Jesus , yes health and wealth are all about Jesus and this man immediately denied faith in his comments about this term Rhema, if you do not agree with this truth nothing you say by the flesh or mind will agree with the word of God. Jesus is wealth in every area of life, but one has to first accept the word of God as the definition of wealth. Btw the way here is the Gospel revealed to the Church Gal 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Gal 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Gal 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. From Genesis Chapter one to the end of book Revealation, is the revealtion of THE Blessing, the most fought truth by Satan. Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:12 PM Jesus is wealth in every area of life, but one has to first accept the word of God as the definition of wealth. *** That depends on what wealth you are speaking of PJ...mine is not of this world or earth...it is of Heaven...GOD's kingdom...I am not a part of the Health and Wealthers or Word of Faith movement...however...I do appreciate your giving Scriptures to support your views...Be Blessed...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:21 PM PJ, I find it frustrating that you will not explain what doctrine of man I presented, but will continue posting things like this. The presenter backed up his view with scripture, used some WoF'ers own videos to show their contradictory statements, and employed sound thinking...all to show the hurt that the movement has caused. I believe he did a fine job. By your own admission, you just listened to the start of the video and determine the video was filled with lies. That's not giving it a fair shake, and when asked you wouldn't say what was false about his teaching. I will ask again(I care not to hear that all doctrines of men are wrong), what specific doctrine of men did you disagree with? Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:28 PM No he did not back up anything with Scripture, he made the his video based upon what the bible calls the works of the flesh and the traditions of men. One might find it very amazing to ask one what is the Gospel, and listen to their response in lieu of what scripture teaches. Btw The way it would never be acceptable for anyone that is saved to list names and be critical of them, nor does anyone have the right to touch God's anointed. Yes I have heard the arguments mocking that truth. Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:31 PM Please excuse me for a moment Ryan I must address this now...PJ you stated ~ From Genesis Chapter one to the end of book Revealation, is the revealtion of THE Blessing, the most fought truth by Satan. *** PJ...the Scriptures you are using here are Proclaiming the Faith in the Gospel Message of "SALAVATION" in and of Christ Jesus...not Faith in ones own desires of Health or Wealth...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:31 PM Just a point of clarification for you PJ, because in other threads you have more or less said that nothing I say can be true because I agree with Calvinism... The speaker in the video is a graduate of and presenting to, those at the SWBTS...Not at all a Calvinist seminary...The president of the seminary openly speaks against Calvinism. However I recognize truth when I see it and the message in the video was straightforward and God honoring. Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:33 PM also...Satan doesnt care if you have Faith...he doesnt want you to believe in Christ Jesus or have Faith in Him and God's Salvation...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:36 PM "Btw The way it would never be acceptable for anyone that is saved to list names and be critical of them, nor does anyone have the right to touch God's anointed." This is direct opposition to the quote you always give about marking false teachers...You call me out in criticism all the time.. Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:44 PM "No he did not back up anything with Scripture, he made the his video based upon what the bible calls the works of the flesh and the traditions of men." Okay, let's have a legitimate discussion here. Can you show how the video was based on the works of the flesh? ...Because right now, this is a cliche phrase with you. Give me some substance we can work with. He did indeed use scripture in his presentation...That much cannot be questioned as it is evident to anyone who watched the video. Now you may say that he just used scripture wrongly... SO let's entertain that idea for a moment. Will you point out which scriptures he used wrongly, so that we may have a discussion on the matter? Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:54 PM View Profile History Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:12 PM Jesus is wealth in every area of life, but one has to first accept the word of God as the definition of wealth. *** That depends on what wealth you are speaking of PJ...mine is not of this world or earth...it is of Heaven...GOD's kingdom...I am not a part of the Health and Wealthers or Word of Faith movement...however...I do appreciate your giving Scriptures to support your views...Be Blessed...xo Correction the word of God is not views it is the eternal living word of God, that never changes, as the author of it never changes. So who was the The Blessing for Jude? Try That attitude on any Jew that is not even born again that know his covenant and the Blessing of Abraham Which My lord operated under while he was on the earth. All one need to do is mention one word and fear will explode like a bomb, what is that word. Btw The way Jude the original plan was for the father to set up his kingdom on the earth. I wonder When Abraham was wealthy? I wonder when Isaac was wealthy? So on and so on. The nation of Israel in roughly seventy years economy is greater that the total of all their neighbors, under the Blessing of Abraham. Post Reply

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