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Tenants or Statements of Faith
Posted : 30 May, 2012 01:25 PM

Tenants or Statements of Faith ???

I've been taught that these are what the Churches claim to "Believe"...My question is...If these Beliefs align with what you Believe then are you what ever the Denomination or Non-Denomination is ???...Also...Is it important to have a Statement of Faith to Believe and Accept Christ Jesus ???



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Old School Christianity



Statement of Faith ~

(1.) The Bible is the Word of God, Inerrant in the original autographs.

(2.) There is only One God, Creator of all creation: three Persons in Trinity; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

(3.) God became flesh in Christ Jesus; born of a Virgin, conceived of the Holy Spirit.

(4.) Christ atoned for our sins through His death and shed blood on the cross.

(5.) Christ rose bodily from the grave and ascended into Heaven; conquering death and proving that He is God.

(6.) Salvation is only through Christ; available now to all through repentance, faith towards God, and being born again as a new creation in Christ.

(7.) Christ shall return, there will be a final judgment of eternal reward and eternal punishment.



Non-Denominational



Tenets of Faith ~

We believe... that there is one God, eternally existent in three persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.



We believe... in the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ, in His virgin birth, and in His bodily resurrection.



We believe... the Bible to be the inspired and infallible Word of God.



We believe... in salvation by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.



We believe... in the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as a subsequent gift to salvation.



We believe... in the provision of bodily healing in the atoning work of Jesus our Savior.



We believe... in the return of the Lord Jesus Christ and the resurrection of both the saved and the lost, the saved unto eternal life, living eternally in the presence of God, and the lost unto eternal damnation without further opportunity of repentance.



Everyone knows the Niceen Creed which the Roman Catholic Church adopted and made a few Alterations to�



Niceen Creed ~ Also Known As: "The Symbol Of Faith"



I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth, and of all things seen and unseen.



And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; God of God, 1 Light of Light, true God of true God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made. Who, for us all for our salvation, came down from Heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, in accordance with the Scriptures; and ascended into Heaven, and sits at the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the living and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.



And I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father; 2 who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.



And I believe in one holy universal 3 and apostolic Church. 4 I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen



Protestant Reformation ~

�Sola Scriptura - Doctrine is "by Scripture alone" as opposed to papal decree or council edict.

�Sola Fide - Justification is received "by faith alone" as opposed to works or sacraments.

�Sola Gratia - Salvation comes "by grace alone."

�Sola Christus - Atonement for sins is "by and through Christ alone."

�Soli Deo gloria - All glory is to be given "to God alone."



Calvinist Tenants or Doctrine of Grace ~ Each Reformed Church within its own Denomination has a Statement of Faith or Tenant of Faith...I dont have an example to share here but here is the break down of the Doctrine of Grace...

G - God's Sovereign Grace



R - Radical Depravity



A - Accomplished Redemption



C - Called Effectually



E - Endurance of the Saints



or



G - Godless Attitude



R - Redemption Appointed



A - Atonement Accomplished



C - Calling Applied



E - Eternal Adoration





xo

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Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 08:31 AM

Abraham was saved because he had faith in the spirit. there was no written word yet. the Torah is the instructions on how to live a righteous life pleasing to God. that is the result, the fruit, of living by faith of the Spirit. but the word does not save.







when John writes that Yeshua aka Jesus, was and is the word, that has multiple meanings. for one , the very words that came out of His mouth set everything in our universe and time into existence. That is the actual Hebrew language. that is a whole study in with in itself. crazy stuff!!! Yeshua is also the true author of the Torah. but most importantly He is what the Torah points to. Yes he fulfilled it (well has almost, theres still some more to come) but what many dont recognize is how He fulfills it. that means He not only followed Torah to the letter but all the feast and sacrifices that the Israelites were commanded to observe, were all pictures of His very ministry down to the last detail. until we really understand what the Word is, we can never really know Him. we can love Him, believe He is the son of God who redeemed those who have faith in Him. but truly know Him, no.







so back to the statement of faith. i think the real problem is what different denominations definition of faith is. what is it to have faith in the spirit too? to believe is to abstract. the demons believe. what is the biblical definition? James 2 14-26 puts it perfectly







14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?







15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,







16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?







17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.







18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.







19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.







20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?







21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?







22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?







23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.







24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.







25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?







26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.







demons believe but they have no faith because they rebel againts the commandments of the Word, the Torah. the beast in Revelations is not called the LAWless one for nothing.







hope this helped some.







rebekah



Abraham was saved because he had faith in the spirit. there was no written word yet. the Torah is the instructions on how to live a righteous life pleasing to God. that is the result, the fruit, of living by faith of the Spirit. but the word does not save.





Faith does not come by the spirit ever always by hearing of the word of God, you would want to go back and study that, the word of God is very clear on this topic and what does in response to the word of God is faith.



How can one be obedient with no word's?



What was the original sin based upon?

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Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 04:06 PM

I don�t know what the above post has to do with the topic of the post�it�s a mish-mass�



My question is...If these Beliefs align with what you Believe then are you what ever the Denomination or Non-Denomination is ???...



*** These are the Tenants & Faith statements I Believe in and live by�I don�t know what Denomination it fits into and it just doesn�t matter to me if it does�and it also doesn�t matter if anyone here agrees with me or not�We are All here to share with each other what we believe and why we believe so may learn from each other�



Could yall just imagine for a moment what that would be like�each Denomination or Non-Denomination of Christian Religion getting together to learn from one another�to exhort one another�to lift up one another in praise to GOD�putting aside the differences and seeking out the common thread that is Christ Jesus�WOW!!!



Also...Is it important to have a Statement of Faith to Believe and Accept Christ Jesus ???



*** Im don�t know ifin Jesus thinks its important�I don�t know if it is a necessary action�I do know it is important and personal to each individual person�and that is a Good thing�xo



Old School Christianity



Statement of Faith ~



(1.) The Bible is the Word of God, Inerrant in the original autographs.



(2.) There is only One God, Creator of all creation: three Persons in Trinity; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.



(3.) God became flesh in Christ Jesus; born of a Virgin, conceived of the Holy Spirit.



(4.) Christ atoned for our sins through His death and shed blood on the cross.



(5.) Christ rose bodily from the grave and ascended into Heaven; conquering death and proving that He is God.



(6.) Salvation is only through Christ; available now to all through repentance, faith towards God, and being born again as a new creation in Christ.



(7.) Christ shall return, there will be a final judgment of eternal reward and eternal punishment.



And



�Sola Scriptura - Doctrine is "by Scripture alone" as opposed to papal decree or council edict.



�Sola Fide - Justification is received "by faith alone" as opposed to works or sacraments.



�Sola Gratia - Salvation comes "by grace alone."



�Sola Christus - Atonement for sins is "by and through Christ alone."



�Soli Deo gloria - All glory is to be given "to God alone."





*** Yall hava a GOD HolySpirit Filled weekend�Be Blessed�xo

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Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 05:36 PM

When i say" faith by the Spirit " that means the word is already written on the heart. Abraham did not have a written word to have faith. He was already living a righteous life and he grew up around pagan worship. YEHOVAH spoke directly to him in the same way He did to Moses who also was raised pagan but had no written word to follow. Faith in the spirit is what brings salvation. That means that Yeshua who is the word made flesh, now lives in our hearts as spirit. Only when we die to our flesh and live though His spirit can we ever be counted righteous. The written word does not nor has ever saved anyone. I do read my bible. every day. i say all of this in love and it wouldn't hurt for you to be a bit more polite. are we not family here?

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Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 05:48 PM

Rebekah...if you are here for any length of time at all, you will realize that PJ is always this way. Most of his posts are not relevant to the topic.

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Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 08:50 PM

i am new to these forums so thanks for the heads up. hahaha.



sorry God'sJude about the subject detour. you ask a great question. if all these different denominations claim similar statements of faith as your own , what does that make you?



although it may appear that many hold the same core beliefs, there are always differences that are not usually out front and center. this is a result of misinterpretation of scripture. or how Satan deliberately deceives , divides and destroys the body of Yeshua. Yeshua was not meant to be divided and this a result of man letting another man interpret scripture for him. Satan wants division. and lets face it, the Fathers family is where he starts. the best way to deceive someone is to have a lot of truth with a little bit of lie in the mix.



i would submit that you look closely at the subjects that divide denominations and study those. that is where the lies live. nobody argues John 3:16 because it's fundamental and so straight to the point, you really can misinterpret it.



Shabbat Shalom

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Posted : 6 Jun, 2012 08:19 AM

Thanxs Rebecka...I was addressing anothers input and questions not yours...I agree with you in studying the differances betwix denoms...and in John 3:16 being straight forward needing no man to further translate or explain it...Gods Blessings to you and yours...xo

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Posted : 17 Jul, 2012 02:03 PM

Nice!

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