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Admin	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 01:01 PM That say's those that have responsibility according to the word of God, does not include authority. How do you explain that believer's have no authority? Post Reply
KindHeartedWoman8 View Profile History	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 04:49 PM When I want to know the real meaning I go to the Hebrew and Greek Interlinear. That is where to find it. Not some version changed by man! Post Reply
View Profile History	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 05:04 PM View Profile History Where is the Precept? Posted : Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 04:08 PM The LORD has established His throne in the heavens, And His sovereignty rules over all. Psalm 103:19 I know this scripture and because it is true, then I am responsible to do my part. To say That The father is in charge of all things is a dishonor to him. The question then is, is it hard heated or ignorance? Lk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, Lk 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. Lk 4:3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread. Lk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Lk 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. Lk 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. Lk 4:7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. Lk 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 2nd Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2nd Cor 4:5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus� sake. 2nd Cor 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. Post Reply
View Profile History	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 05:41 PM I was using the NASB...I prefer the ESV which is probably the most accurate english translation...and renders it more like you have. 19 The Lord has established his throne in the heavens, and his kingdom rules over all. 20 Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, obeying the voice of his word! 21 Bless the Lord, all his hosts, his ministers, who do his will! Now the case you were making was that the people of God rule...well if that's the case then shouldn't the verses 20 and 21 indicate that? They don't...they speak of those who obey and do God's word. If any teaching on sovereignty is to be gathered from these verses, it would be that God is sovereign...not His people. If there is anyone we can say is a ruler here..It's God, not His people. Looking further in scripture to find out if God is sovereign or man.... 11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who WORKS ALL THINGS ACCORDING TO THE COUNSEL OF HIS WILL Ephesians 1:11 6 Whatever the Lord pleases, he does, in heaven and on earth,in the seas and all deeps. Psalm 135:6 30 But Sihon the king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him, for the Lord your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, that he might give him into your hand, as he is this day. Deuteronomy 2:30 Romans 9:9-21 9 For this is what the promise said: �About this time next year I will return, and Sarah shall have a son.� 10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, 11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad�in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls� 12 she was told, �The older will serve the younger.� 13 As it is written, �Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.� 14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, �I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.� 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,[b] but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, �For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.� 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. 19 You will say to me then, �Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?� 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, �Why have you made me like this?� 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? These are just a few examples of God's sovereignty. I would challenge you to say that He is not in control...after reading the scriptures. Post Reply
View Profile History	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 05:43 PM PJ...those verses don't refute anything I've said... Post Reply
View Profile History	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 07:17 PM Of course they don't but the Good news is this, we know the truth. Btw The way you should not be on a dating site, obviously. Post Reply
View Profile History	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 07:22 PM Haha I'd love to hear this. Why shouldn't I be on a dating site? Post Reply
View Profile History	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 07:25 PM You have your answer, in your own words. You think it is funny, the lord that some say is sovereign over all things would never sanction his approval. Post Reply
View Profile History	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 08:04 PM So...you don't have an answer? Go figure.. Post Reply
View Profile History	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 08:24 PM There are no biblical answer's you will accept, but obviously it makes you feel better to blame me, it is ok I understand. Without exception there has never been a Calvinist on this site agree with the word of God. The most common excuse is to fault any believer's./ Post Reply
View Profile History	Where is the Precept? Posted : 1 Jun, 2012 08:40 PM Still can't answer? Post Reply

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