Author	Thread: Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian?
Admin	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 08:39 AM You see and hear this continually on this site that those that will not accept the other doctrine of reformation theology, those that know it to be of another doctine are by those endeavor to follow the word of God are not Christian's Is it the Spirit of Truth, that lies about the children of God. 9 but, according as it hath been written, `What eye did not see, and ear did not hear, and upon the heart of man came not up, what God did prepare for those loving Him --' 10 but to us did God reveal [them] through His Spirit, for the Spirit all things doth search, even the depths of God, 11 for who of men hath known the things of the man, except the spirit of the man that [is] in him? so also the things of God no one hath known, except the Spirit of God. 12 And we the spirit of the world did not receive, but the Spirit that [is] of God, that we may know the things conferred by God on us, 13 which things also we speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Holy Spirit, with spiritual things spiritual things comparing, 14 and the natural man doth not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for to him they are foolishness, and he is not able to know [them], because spiritually they are discerned; 15 and he who is spiritual, doth discern indeed all things, and he himself is by no one discerned; 16 for who did know the mind of the Lord that he shall instruct Him? and we -- we have the mind of Christ. Post Reply
View Profile History	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 10:36 AM Jude I honestly expected better from you.... Here we go... 82 God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: 2 �How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Selah 3 Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.� 5 They have neither knowledge nor understanding, they walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 I said, �You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; 7 nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince.� 8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations! This is God's statement against unrighteous judges who consider themselves God. Basically it is sarcasm...You know better than to just throw out a verse like that as some sort of proof text without giving context. Moving on... 22 At that time the Feast of Dedication took place at Jerusalem. It was winter, 23 and Jesus was walking in the temple, in the colonnade of Solomon. 24 So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, �How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.� 25 Jesus answered them, �I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me,[a] is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one.� 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, �I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?� 33 The Jews answered him, �It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.� 34 Jesus answered them, �Is it not written in your Law, �I said, you are gods�? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came�and Scripture cannot be broken� 36 do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, �You are blaspheming,� because I said, �I am the Son of God�? 37 If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me; 38 but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.� 39 Again they sought to arrest him, but he escaped from their hands. In V. 33 they are going to stone Jesus because He is only a man and setting Himself up to be God. The irony Jesus points out is that they are putting themselves in the position of God. NOW....moving past the sarcasm of calling men gods.... 35 To you it was shown, that you might know that the Lord is God; THERE IS NO OTHER BESIDES HIM. 36 Out of heaven he let you hear his voice, that he might discipline you. And on earth he let you see his great fire, and you heard his words out of the midst of the fire. 37 And because he loved your fathers and chose their offspring after them[c] and brought you out of Egypt with his own presence, by his great power, 38 driving out before you nations greater and mightier than you, to bring you in, to give you their land for an inheritance, as it is this day, 39 know therefore today, and lay it to your heart, that the Lord is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; THERE IS NO OTHER. Deuteronomy 4:35-39 The bible tells us there is one God, not many. Anybody can pull out a verse that speaks of other gods and say, "see there are other gods"....What should we say though about this verse?" You shall not go after other gods, the gods of the peoples who are around you" Deuteronomy 6:14....So Jude and PJ are these other gods, gods as well? Of course not. Let's not be silly �You are my witnesses,� declares the LORD, �and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, NOR SHALL THERE BE ANY AFTER ME Isaiah 43:10 that all the peoples of the earth may know that the LORD is God; THERE IS NO OTHER. 1 King 8:60 I am the LORD, and there is no other, BESIDES ME THERE IS NO GOD; I equip you, though you do not know me, Isaiah 45:5 Post Reply
View Profile History	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 10:37 AM So now we have two people claiming that everyone is a god....and I am the one with the wrong theology? Post Reply
View Profile History	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 10:46 AM What is the reward of all liar's? Post Reply
View Profile History	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 10:52 AM The lake of fire. Since it's a lie to claim that you are a god. What does that say about you? Post Reply
View Profile History	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 10:52 AM Nice work Holding... Seems you flushed out some more bad theology.That bad theology has some pretty serious implications, does it not? I have no idea why you are surprised by Jude. brother. As, I keep saying an "xo" doesn't make her statements any more Biblical or valid. All it shows is her humanistic misunderstanding of the Biblical concept of love. We all knew where these two stood. The Father knew, The Son knew and The Holy Spirit knew too... Post Reply
View Profile History	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 11:49 AM Ryan...you said ~ Sorry but I don't see anywhere God saying that we are all gods. *** I posted GOD's word to show you where to find what GOD said...and Ima not here to meet yours or anyones expectations... Psalm 82:6 6 [[[ I ]]] have said, [[[ Ye are gods; ]]] [[[ and ( all ) of you are children of the most High. ]]] John 10:34 [[[ Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? ]]] xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 12:00 PM But you understood the context of the conversation in this thread. You knew I was saying that the bible wasn't saying we were gods. You knew I wasn't asking for any reference whatsoever to men being gods. You knew it would come off as a defense for PJ. So for clarification of those reading, do you believe we are gods? If not, sorry I took all that time to explain the verses to you. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 01:03 PM pj and joys lack of understanding of this subject would be laughable if they were not sinning in her insistence upon attempting to stir up dissension and quarreling. pj and joy , if you are truly a Christian, I would encourage you to actually search the Word on this subject rather than just regurgitating what you've already heard. You have been lied to about what reformation theology believes, and you need to repent of spreading the lies that you have been told. Post Reply
View Profile History	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 01:11 PM But you understood the context of the conversation in this thread. *** The Topic of the Thread is ~ Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian?�and the Topic of discussion was redirected and changed� You knew I was saying that the bible wasn't saying we were gods. *** No�I did not know that�you stated ~ �Sorry but I don't see anywhere God saying that we are all gods. I don't remember God saying that the prosperity gospel is the gospel, or that we can speak things into existence. His belief system is all about exalting man. I'm glad you are trying to go around the be the protect of everyone you agree with on the board, but I'm not really interested in who you agree with or not. I'm only interested in being true to the word.� *** And its off Topic� You knew I wasn't asking for any reference whatsoever to men being gods. *** Yes�You did not ask for any reference�You made a statement and I supplied Scripture for review� You knew it would come off as a defense for PJ. *** I know that you went off Topic and made it clear that you do not Agree with what PJ believes in�and I know that the comments made are �Defensive�� So for clarification of those reading, do you believe we are gods? *** No�we are not gods�we are created in the image of GOD� If not, sorry I took all that time to explain the verses to you. *** No apologies needed from you towards me�thank you for taking the time to post Scripture and Clarify the verses I posted for everyone reading� In V. 33 they are going to stone Jesus because He is only a man and setting Himself up to be God. The irony Jesus points out is that they are putting themselves in the position of God. xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Which Spirit Is It That Proclaims That One In Christ is not a Christian? Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 01:27 PM Well obviously I believe my post was on topic because the thread was started in response to my post from another thread. However we can agree to disagree. Post Reply

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