Author	Thread: Could someone expound please
Admin	Could someone expound please Posted : 10 Nov, 2012 06:05 AM Hi there, I've seen this Scripture quoted many times, if someone is able to expound on it's meaning to help me gain understanding I'd be grateful. Matthew 11:12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force." Many thanks Jacquie Post Reply
View Profile History	Could someone expound please Posted : 10 Nov, 2012 03:19 PM I have had a few individuals tell me they felt the act of violence was perpertraited toward them by christians who aggressivly tried to share their faith with them. One of these individuals I actually observed through a glass window flaring his arms around while trying to share the love of God with them red faced. One of the others was my neighbor who confided in me about his interaction with a individual who cornered him. He told me he felt very threatened by this person. Post Reply
View Profile History	Could someone expound please Posted : 10 Nov, 2012 03:37 PM So, you are providing anecdotal support for your straw man argument? My offer to you still stands. Prove your case from the Bible. I don't want to see yet another thread get derailed while you chase rabbits down the proverbial bunny hole. Post Reply
View Profile History	Could someone expound please Posted : 10 Nov, 2012 03:46 PM Do what you got to do. Post Reply
View Profile History	Could someone expound please Posted : 10 Nov, 2012 03:57 PM LTM, I have 3 words for you: Raise the standard! Post Reply
View Profile History	Could someone expound please Posted : 10 Nov, 2012 04:05 PM Yes, Let us raise the standard by not being people who would force anything upon another. Let us be considerate of people. Post Reply
View Profile History	Could someone expound please Posted : 10 Nov, 2012 05:43 PM Wow, that's a lot to plow through, thanks again everyone for taking the time to reply... TruthBeKnown, no need to apologize, it's great that you took time to respond. But thank you so much for the added references and scriptures! All of you are amazing, thank you! Jacquie Post Reply
View Profile History	Could someone expound please Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 05:19 AM Scot, It is my desire to bring relatible truths that will effect our lives personally. Our lives and attitudes toward oneanother. Things that if we do the self examination will come to the conclusion of Gods greater love toward us. Some here would seek to quelch the oppertunity to recieve Gods love greater in their hearts by discrediting me. Who really oppose Gods love and see it as something weak and lame. Infeminate....... Who would place a burden of rules over love. As I have said in the past to others I trust your ability to decern. Your ability to decern the Spirits. Post Reply
View Profile History	Could someone expound please Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 05:34 AM LTM, Please give everyone a break. This is about YOUR "relatable" application of the passage that was asked about in the OP. You absolutely mangled the passage. In other words, you threw the Truth of the passage out the window. In advancing, more practical applications, you also perverted the message of the Word. You denied our command to proclaim the Gospel by suggesting we should not do so if it violates another person's "free will" So, you discredit yourself. How about we discern what spirit it is that perverts the Word of God and advances a lie instead? Who is it that walks contrary to the Word and calls it "love"? Now again, you seek to misrepresent the opposition that you face. Where is this "burden of rules" that has been placed here in this thread? I wonder when others here are going to wake up and smell the coffee with you. Post Reply
View Profile History	Could someone expound please Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 06:14 AM Again you missunderstood me. But thanks for asking for clarification.. I never said we should stop proclaiming truth of the gospel to people. When we seek to relate the gospel to " individuals" it has to be with the right Spirit of love. Thinking loving them is jambing the gospel down their throats is not love at all.......When we have attitude of force we pervert the very message we bring by our own aggression toward those we seek to serve. 28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Post Reply
View Profile History	Could someone expound please Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 06:22 AM I don't misunderstand you. You misunderstand the Word of God and thereby you misunderstand God Himself. It seems that I am one of the only ones that sees through your garbage. Go back and read the OP and then ask yourself why you have deviated so far from it with your "application". All that does is create confusion for everyone reading. Now you are responding to things that you have imposed on this thread that have nothing to do with the OP. Chasing rabbits!! Everyone would do well to note that another thread has been derailed by LTM and his fantasy applications of the Scripture. Post Reply

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