Author	Thread: A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith
Admin	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 24 Dec, 2012 10:00 PM ".....Scripture also teaches�that people may possess a faith which is one of the Holy Spirit, and yet which is a�non-saving�one. This faith which we now allude to has two ingredients which neither education nor self-effort can produce: spiritual light and a Divine power moving the mind to assent. ... Saving faith has Christ for its object; so has a non-saving faith (John 2:23, 24). Saving faith is wrought by the Holy Spirit; so is a non-saving faith (Heb. 6:4)." [Studies on Saving Faith by A.W. Pink] _______________ According to A.W. Pink a unregenerate person may have faith, even a faith given by the Holy Spirit. Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 01:24 AM Actually I copied this quote off Monergism.com, is there a better place? Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 01:45 AM That's a fine website. I think you missed the point of my post. You searched until you found statements that you believed to be contradictory and posted them. At the risk of speaking for Pink....I'm pretty sure he agrees with Spurgeon's quote. Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 01:49 AM You will find people on that site who disagree on different issues. Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 02:17 AM Your problem sparrow is you are trusting in your titles, and bashing someone who you know nothing about. I am a follower of Christ. He is my refuge and my rock. I believe no one but the holy infallible word of God. You really should rely more on the bible than in fallible man. Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 09:59 AM Bashing??? I am trying my best to stay on topic. I posted Scripture on this topic, (John 3)�you just stated I was wrong and dismissed it. Since you have been repeatedly posting articles by A.W. Pink, someone you obviously respect,�I posted a quote from A.W. Pink which supports my view of regeneration. Instead of dealing with the truth before your eyes, you choose to deflect.� Bashing? Really? Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 12:02 PM So your view is that God chooses and that some will try to come and God will reject them because it's available to all, but not really...just those He chooses? Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 12:04 PM If that's the case, then you affirm as we do, that Jesus died to save a certain people and that only those people can be saved. You posted something form Pink that you didn't understand. You think Pink is saying that men can come to saving faith on their own and he is not. Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 12:23 PM Context is important, but you already knew the context here and chose to ignore it. I will give it to the readers. How could you read this and come to the conclusion that this contradicts what Spurgeon was saying? Spurgeon wasn't even discussing this topic. Pink- "There are those who have a faith which is so like that which is saving as they themselves may take it to be the very same, and others too may deem it sufficient, yea, even others who have the spirit of discernment. Simon Magus is a case in point. Of him it is written, "Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip" (Acts 8:13). Such a faith had he, and so expressed it, that Philip took him to he a genuine Christian, and admitted him to those privileges which are peculiar to them. Yet, a little later, the apostle Peter said to him, "Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God . . . I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity" (Acts 8:21, 23). A man may believe all the truth contained in Scripture so far as he is acquainted with it, and he may be familiar with far more than are many genuine Christians. He may have studied the Bible for a longer time, and so his faith may grasp much which they have not yet reached. As his knowledge may be more extensive, so his faith may be more comprehensive. In this kind of faith he may go as far as the apostle Paul did, when he said, "But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets" (Acts 24:14). But this is no proof that his faith is saving. An example to the contrary is seen in Agrippa: "King Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest"(Acts 26:27). Call the above a mere historical faith if you will, yet Scripture also teaches that people may possess a faith which is one of the Holy Spirit, and yet which is a non-saving one. This faith which we now allude to has two ingredients which neither education nor self-effort can produce: spiritual light and a Divine power moving the mind to assent. Now a man may have both illumination and inclination from heaven, and yet not be regenerated. We have a solemn proof of this in Hebrews 6:4-6. There we read of a company of apostates, concerning whom it is said, "It is impossible to renew them again unto repentance." Yet, of these we are told that they were "enlightened," and had "tasted of the heavenly gift," which means, they not only perceived it. but were inclined toward and embraced it; and both, because they were "partakers of the Holy Spirit." Post Reply
dljrn04 View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 12:31 PM "Bashing??? I am trying my best to stay on topic. I posted Scripture on this topic, (John 3) you just stated I was wrong and dismissed it. Since you have been repeatedly posting articles by A.W. Pink, someone you obviously respect, I posted a quote from A.W. Pink which supports my view of regeneration. Instead of dealing with the truth before your eyes, you choose to deflect. Bashing? Really?" Yep REALLY !!!!!! you cut and past what you think proves your point from Pink just like you do by twisting and adding to scripture. A leopard can not lose his spots. Post Reply
View Profile History	A.W. Pink ~~~~ Unregenerate Faith Posted : 26 Dec, 2012 12:49 PM Yea "..." means wasn't here originally ha He just keeps reaching with Pink Post Reply

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