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PREACH THE GOSPEL NOT DOCTRINE! Wait a minute, what?
Posted : 2 Aug, 2013 12:01 AM

It was claimed in another post by a fellow CDFF member:

"I never see Reformers here PREACH the Gospel...only Preach doctrine!!!!."



Huh? On it's surface, this is a rather puzzling claim. Is it not? How does this member go about making this unnatural distinction between "the Gospel" and "doctrine" in the first place? It seems that more than a little bit of confusion exists in this member's mind.



What is doctrine?

Doctrine (from Latin: doctrina) is a codification of beliefs or a body of teachings or instructions, taught principles or positions, as the body of teachings in a branch of knowledge or belief system.



Ah, so we see that doctrine is a set of beliefs or teachings.

Then, what is the gospel if not a distinctive doctrine? And what would distinguish a "false gospel" unless it was in the distinctive of the doctrine?



Did Jesus preach doctrine? He said he did.



John 7

15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?

16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.



Are repentance, remission of sins, Christ's death, burial, and resurrection the doctrine of the Christian faith? They most certainly are. Is this not also the Gospel of the Christian faith? It most certainly is.



Luke 24

47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem



1 Cor. 15

1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:



What are we warned to beware of? "Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees" Matt 16:6 What is this leaven? Ah yeah, it's doctrine. "Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the DOCTRINE of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees" Matt. 16:12



Let's look at an example of a FALSE gospel. Acts 23:8 "For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both." Why could this be considered a false gospel? Because the Sadducees taught that there was no resurrection. The problem was with their doctrine.



Now, let's examine this members claim again:

"I never see Reformers here PREACH the Gospel...only Preach doctrine!!!!."



Does this actually have any merit at all? Even a cursory examination of the forums, shows a LARGE number of posts from the "Reformers" that are PREACHING doctrine. In fact, the "Reformers" here are the only ones that are PREACHING the "doctrines of grace" --- which certainly make up the framework for and the heart of the Biblical Gospel.



Perhaps this member takes pleasure in being an accuser of the Reformed brethren or perhaps not..........let the readers decide.

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PREACH THE GOSPEL NOT DOCTRINE! Wait a minute, what?
Posted : 3 Aug, 2013 11:46 AM

"There is no Gospel to Reformation theology, you can not teach hatred and unbelief and call it Love and faith."



Really??????





Prove it !

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Posted : 4 Aug, 2013 02:21 PM

Hummm...well I don't know about anyone else here...I'm still waiting for the simple Gospel to be Preached...not read an attempt to discredit me or anyone else here...:rolleyes:...Go figer that one Martha...:toomuch:...xo

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Posted : 4 Aug, 2013 04:47 PM

heresy must be brought into the light of God's word. Many on this site would rather go around spreading heresy than to hear or listen to the truth from God's word. You in particular jude. You love to degrade those who bring God's truth to a subject.



Love is speaking God's word to those who are perishing, that is the gospel. Christ while on earth spoke truth, and taught those whom were spreading heresy.

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Posted : 4 Aug, 2013 06:06 PM

So you are calling me a Heretic and a Degrader of the Truth ???...How can that be when I believe in Yahshua�that He is the Messiah as Prophesied�the SON of the Living GOD�that he was Crucified�Buried�and Risen on the 3rd day ???...



Shared ~ Love is speaking God's word to those who are perishing, that is the gospel.



*** Yup!!! Couldn�t Agree more�and here a lil bit of that Gospel�

John 3:15-17

15 that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. [[[ 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, ]]] that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

*** That�s LOVE�Unconditional!!!!...xo

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2013 01:14 AM

That is the heresy I speak of. Easy beliefism is rampant in most churches. From genesis to revelations God is very clear on who his people are, what his will is for those people, and how they are to live.

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2013 05:26 AM

Preaching this verse is the heresy you speak of ???...That makes no sense at all...Do you not see in verse the unconditional love the Father has for us...xo

John 3:15-17



15 that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. [[[ 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, ]]] that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.



*** That�s LOVE�Unconditional!!!!...

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2013 12:01 PM

The only unconditional love is through out the entire bible, from Genesis to Revelations. It is God's love for his people ( believers), and hatred of the unbeliever. Every thing you (your false teachers) make up is heresy.

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2013 12:41 PM

Shared ~ Every thing you (your false teachers) make up is heresy.



???...xo

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2013 01:48 PM

The only unconditional love is through out the entire bible, from Genesis to Revelations. It is God's love for his people ( believers), and hatred of the unbeliever. Every thing you (your false teachers) make up is heresy.



In otherwords you believe Love, hates when it wants to because, because Love is sovereign.



If that is the case then you have no foundation for truth, because you believe God is one that would lie, thus making him unsovereign.

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