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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 05:09 PM

GOD IS SOVEREIGN



1 Chronicles 29:10-12 Therefore David blessed the LORD before all the assembly; and David said: "Blessed are You, LORD God of Israel, our Father, forever and ever. (11) Yours, O LORD, is the greatness, The power and the glory, The victory and the majesty; For all that is in heaven and in earth is Yours; Yours is the kingdom, O LORD, And You are exalted as head over all. (12) Both riches and honor come from You, And You reign over all. In Your hand is power and might; In Your hand it is to make great And to give strength to all.



Genesis 50:20 "But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.

[ This verse shows that God's plan & purpose will NOT be changed, despite man's attempt at doing so. Though man tries to change things for his own sinful purposes, God's will & purpose will ALWAYS prevail. ]



Psa 115:3 But our God [is] in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.



Psa 135:6 Whatsoever the LORD pleased, [that] did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places.



Isaiah 14:24,27 The LORD of hosts has sworn, saying, "Surely, as I have thought, so it shall come to pass, And as I have purposed, so it shall stand:

(27) For the LORD of hosts has purposed, And who will annul it? His hand is stretched out, And who will turn it back?"



Isaiah 46:9-11 Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me, (10) Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done, Saying, �My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure,� (11) Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it.



Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.



Jer 32:17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, [and] there is nothing too hard for thee:



Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth [are] reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and [among] the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?



Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.







FAITH & REPENTANCE ARE DIVINE GIFTS -



Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, (9) not of works, lest anyone should boast.



Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.



Acts 16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard [us]: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.



Acts 18:27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:



Php 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;



2 Timothy 2:25-26 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, (26) and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.



Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand [to be] a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.



Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.



Galatians 1:15-16 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother�s womb and called me through His grace, (16) to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,



2Pet 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that [pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:



1Cor 4:7 For who maketh thee to differ [from another]? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive [it], why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received [it]?



1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.







SECRETS OF THE KINGDOM ARE MADE KNOWN TO THE ELECT -



1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.



Matthew 11:25-27 At that time Jesus answered and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. (26) "Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. (27) "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.



Luke10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.



Matthew 13:10-11,16 And the disciples came and said to Him, "Why do You speak to them in parables?" (11) He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.

(16) "But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear;



Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.



Luke 24:44-45 Then He said to them, "These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me." (45) And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.



John 6:37,44-45,64-65 (37) "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

(44) "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. (45) "It is written in the prophets, �And they shall all be taught by God.� Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.

(64) "But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. (65) And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."



1Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.



Ephesians 1:17-19 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, (18) the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, (19) and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power



Acts 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.



Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Eph 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 07:19 PM

1 Timothy 4:10�For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

2 Timothy 3:7�Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.�

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.�

9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

2 Timothy 3:15�And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Hebrews 3:7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,

8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:�

9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.

10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.�

11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.�

13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.�

14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;�

15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.�

17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?�

18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?

19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Hebrews 4:1�Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.�

3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.�

9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.�

10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.�

13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.�

16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 07:22 PM

"Instead of ripping scripture out of context, can you please respond to the original scripture? Thank you in advance. "



It appears that the answer is NO. :laugh:

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 07:40 PM

Iwa



It is not a debate. it is not a war.



Scripture could not be any clearer, you have made it Very Clear to try and intimidate any and all you can. It will change the truth. Nor will you cahnge those that have accepted the word of God as truth.

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 07:46 PM

PJ,



Scripture could not be any clearer, you have made it very clear to try and intimidate any and all you can. It will not change the truth. Nor will you change those that have accepted the word of God as truth.

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 07:50 PM

I agree that it is clear and that is why all that reject Calvinism, accept it as written.



Your are not going to make every miserable, thay will walk in the truth.



Calling everyone stupid and a liar does not make anything so.

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 07:51 PM

DLJRN/IWA: "Instead of ripping scripture out of context, can you please respond to the original scripture? Thank you in advance. "



I did respond to the verses ripped out of context to match your beliefs. The verses I posted show how people can choose to believe or deny the truth.



The Scriptures stand...

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 07:52 PM

I agree that it is clear and that is why all that reject Arminianism/Pelagianism accept it as written.



Your are not going to make everyone miserable, they will walk in the truth.



Calling everyone stupid and a liar does not make anything so.

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 07:53 PM

"Instead of ripping scripture out of context, can you please respond to the original scripture? Thank you in advance. "



And it still appears that the answer is NO. :laugh:

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 07:55 PM

1 Timothy 4:10�For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

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So here is a reference to ALL, that is then narrowed to only those who believe...

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Posted : 1 Sep, 2013 08:00 PM

The verses were answered...maybe not to your liking...because it doesn't line up with your theology...

I have always had difficulty with double standards...it's ok for one group to pick and chose verses to post but if someone else does it, it's 'ripping them out of context'.

Some can ask questions and demand answers but others ask questions and no answer is ever given...

That's ok...God's Word does not go out void...so I will continue to post Scriptures as the Lord leads.

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