Thread: An Open Challenge To This Forums Contributors
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An Open Challenge To This Forums Contributors
Posted : 8 Sep, 2013 02:02 PM
Please show anywhere where I have preached/taught contrary to the doctrine of Christ/the Word. You may not like what I preach/teach but that it is not the point. You must show that it is contrary to the Word itself.
Highlight my comments and prove that the Word of God teaches otherwise. That's the challenge.
It is NOT enough to FALSELY ACCUSE somebody of doing something, you must show that this has in fact been done. As you all know, I have done this with the content from many other members here.
I have been active and inactive on this site over the years (don't even remember when I joined). I participate in a variety of the forums/threads sometimes because I feel I can share some of my life experiences to help to be an encouragement/example, sometimes because I have studied a certain principle, sometimes just because I thought a person was trying to reach out and might like an encouraging word of affirmation, other times because I had a differing view or understanding on a topic.
I often choose not to participate in threads because I may have my views but have not studied a topic in depth enough or don't have the time to put together a sufficient response or I just think it's not worth my time or energy to deal with it.
When I do chime in, it's because I believe I have something worth saying...i'm the same way in person...and I try hard not to mirror the wrong behavior...because it doesn't help the cause or message I may have to present. And, trust me, sometimes it's very hard not to mirror bad behavior...no matter which side I may land on.
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Romans 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
IWA: "Meantime, in an assembly of "believers", other doctrines must be preached. You should throw down your milk bottle and endeavor to learn from those here who are teaching sound doctrine."
Thread: 'preach repentence',�Posted : 8 Sep, 2013 10:14 AM
Ephesians 4:14�That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;�
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
1 Timothy 1:3�As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,�
4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith:so do.
1 Timothy 6:3�If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;�
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,�
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness:from such withdraw thyself.
6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
Titus 2:7�In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,�
8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
9 Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again;�
10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
"Meantime, in an assembly of "believers", other doctrines must be preached. You should throw down your milk bottle and endeavor to learn from those here who are teaching sound doctrine."
11.Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Heb 5
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables
Your error is in the 'teaching of doctrine[s]'. �Anywhere the plural -- doctrines -- is used, the reference is to wrong doctrine.
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Matthew 15:9�But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mark 7:7�Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Colossians 2:20�Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,�
21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;�
22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
1 Timothy 4:1�Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Hebrews 13:9�Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
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Generally, where doctrine, singular, is used, it is referring what Jesus taught...or would teach, for example:
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Matthew 7:28�And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
Mark 11:18�And the scribes and chief priests heard it, and sought how they might destroy him:for they feared him, because all the people was astonished at his doctrine.
John 7:16�Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.�
17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.�
18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.�
19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?�
1 Timothy 6:3�If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;�
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,�
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness:from such withdraw thyself.
6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
Titus 1:9�Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Titus 2:7�In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,�
8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
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Should we study all aspects and principles taught in the Bible, yes, but they are part of the doctrine.
You may think I am splitting hairs, but for those caught up in the precise ness of definitions, this is HUGE!
1 Timothy 6:3�If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;�
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,�
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
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Please read verse 3, notice it talks about wholesome words...you have violated this precept.
:ROFL: You got me Teach --- Bravo! I added an "s" into the first use of the word doctrine in my statement. In fact, I think you may have just busted many other in the Christian church at large. :laugh: At least all those who would ever tack an "s" onto the word doctrine --- such as the "doctrines of grace" My meaning in the context to which you were referring was that other things need to be taught in addition to just the "Gospel". I have never promoted the idea of teaching non-Biblical doctrines.
Look at the quote in question: "Meantime, in an assembly of "believers", other doctrines must be preached. You should throw down your milk bottle and endeavor to learn from those here who are teaching sound DOCTRINE"
Also, Look at the OP "Please show anywhere where I have preached/taught contrary to the DOCTRINE of Christ/the Word."
"Please read verse 3, notice it talks about wholesome words...you have violated this precept. "
According to the interpretation, understanding, and judgment of Teach_ib. Forgive me in advance for not responding to any future posts or comments of yours. I've just had enough of your petty foolishness.
Now you all may mark me as a divisive heretic for my added "s". And since the Bible command is clear as LTM has previously pointed out, "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. " Please avoid me. :yay:
