Author Thread: Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 12:16 PM

Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN** the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS**:angel::angel: with Him {See Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thess 1:7 & Matt 16:27 below!}}, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left.



**THEN** the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"



**THEN** He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.



**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"



2 Thess 1:1,6-10: To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* from heaven with His pwerful **ANGELS** :angel::angel:{See Matt 24:31 & 25:31}�. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people and to be marveled at among **ALL** those who believed. This includes *YOU* {Church of Thessalonians}, because you believed our testimony to you !!



These inspired Words of God in I Thess 1:1,6-10 absolutely contradict the Preterist, Historist and Pre-Trib positions since in guarantees that the Thessalonian church saints will be resurrected on the *SAME DAY* as all the lost which would of course has to take place on the Last Day of the Great Tribulation.



Matthew 24:29-31 16:27; 25:31-46 below also completely contradict the Preterist, Historist and Pre-Trib positions:



Matthew 24:29-31: Jesus says, �Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.� {Luke 21:28 adds �When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.�} Then the nations will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send His **ANGELS**:angel::angel: {See Matt 25:31 below and 2 Thess 1:7 above} with a loud {7TH & LAST} *TRUMPET* CALL and they will gather *His elect* from the 4 winds {Mark 13:27b adds:} �from the ends of the earth {Saints on earth} to the ends of the Heavens {Saints in Heaven}!!�



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His **ANGELS**:angel::angel:, and **THEN** He will reward each person according to what he has done!!"





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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 02:57 PM

Ummm...I don't see you refuting error...what I see here is you refuting a person and their postings that do not line up with what you believe...just my observation every time you are on this site...but hey...what do I know...Im just a member of Hypocrites Unanimous...:dunce:



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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 02:58 PM

All of your ridiculous speculations and predictions such as Israel attacking Iran prior to 2012 elections and Obama being the "False Prophet", etc. etc. will continue to FAIL because you do not discern the times and the seasons. You will continue to look foolish in just the same way that all of the "rapture" predictors have looked foolish.



You can strap on your Nikes, drink your cool-aid, and wait for the mother ship if you wish but there are MANY now who are NOT buying into these FABLES anymore. Do NOT accept this man's escapism. :devil:

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:05 PM

This man's excessive need to draw attention to himself should really tell the whole story. Taking up TEN lines of space for a title of his post? Spamming his posts repeatedly all over other threads? Inflating his own post views? Why does he need the attention so badly?



Did Jesus need to drive this kind of attention to himself when he was speaking the truth? Our Lord rode into Jerusalem on a donkey. He did not create a spectacle, did he?

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:08 PM

I posted that Obama's religious beliefs qualifies him to be the future False Prophet of 666 and also said it was just an interesting SPECULATION.



I also agree that the Pre-Trib rapture is not Scriptural:



WE ARE ALL EAGERLY WAITING FOR OUR ETERNAL RENDEZVOUS WITH JESUS!



I Peter 1:13: �Therefore, prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be given YOU when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED*.



I Cor 1:7: �YOU do not lack any spiritual gift as YOU eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be *REVEALED*.� Now the pre-tribbers claim that this glorious *REVEALING or *REVELATION* of Jesus will be *CONCEALED* BEFORE the beginning of the Great Tribulation.� However, every other time the Word *REVEALED* {Greek-Apocalipsis} is used related to resurrection events it refers to the glorious REVEALING of Jesus on the *LAST DAY* of the Great Tribulation {See 2 Thess 1:7-10 & Luke 17:26-31}. And *CONCEALED* is the exact opposite of *REVEALED* and *APPEARED* according to every dictionary!�



Titus 2:13: �*WE* wait for the *BLESSED HOPE*�the glorious *APPEARING* of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. �



Hebrews 9:28 �Jesus will *APPEAR* a 2nd time {And not a 3rd TIME!} to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!�



�Colossians 1:2; 3:4: �To the holy and faithful brothers in Christ.... When Christ, who is your life **APPEARS**, then you also will **APPEAR** with Him in glory.� I John 3:2,3: �When Jesus *APPEARS*, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. Everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure!!�



Matthew 24:29,30: Jesus says, �IMMEDIATELY AFTER the distress of those days {The Great Tribulation} the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky. At that time the sign of the Son of Man will *APPEAR in the sky and the nations will *SEE* the Son of Man COMING on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory!!� I John 2:28: �Dear children, continue in Him, so that when He *APPEARS* WE may be confident and unashamed before Him at His COMING!� {See 2 Thess 1:7-10; I Tim 6:14; Heb 9:28 & Col 3:4}�



2 Tim 4:8: Paul said, There is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on THAT DAY�and not only to me, but to *ALL who have longed for His *APPEARING*!!� I Peter 5:4: �When the Chief Shepherd **APPEARS**, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away!�



2 Thess 1:1,6-10:� �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well.� This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* {See I Peter 1:13} from heaven in blazing fire�.� He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.� They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people!!�



A meeting at an appointed place and time is called a RENDEZVOUS. We have a RENDEZVOUS with eternity at the glorious *APPEARING and *REVEALING of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ *IMMEDIATELY AFTER the Great Tribulation.



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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:12 PM

Notice what I said: "All of your ridiculous speculations and predictions " See the word "speculation"?



It is not an "interesting" speculation at all because it is rooted in complete error. It serves to do nothing more than create FALSE stress and anxiety in the body of Christ.

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:19 PM

This man's excessive need to draw attention to himself should really tell the whole story. Taking up TEN lines of space for a title of his post? Spamming his posts repeatedly all over other threads? Inflating his own post views? Why does he need the attention so badly?



*** Ummmm....Oh never mind...its a cant see the forest :dunce: through he trees kinda thing...Lord have Mercy...



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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:24 PM

Those who promote a FALSE understanding of history and eschatology are demanding that Christians should live in fear rather than victory. This is why so many misguided "Christians" are fleeing to the mountains, hoarding food, building bunkers, and other ridiculous non-sense.



We are called to BOLDLY go into the world, preach the Gospel, and make disciples. This means that we must learn what the Bible teaches --- that Christ prevails in time and in history. We are not told to sit home and "speculate" or to preach conspiracy theories of gloom and doom. This is nonsense.

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:34 PM

Hey Jude,



Why don't you move to FL? Then you and Richard can ride around in his Jesusmobile with the windows down and a bullhorn shouting " America is Babylon the Great and Obama is the false prophet of 666" :devil:



Lord, have mercy! :toomuch:



Does anybody really wonder why the Christian church has lost so much credibility and influence in society?

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:34 PM

WILL THE COURAGEOUS TRIBULATION SAINTS SUFFER THE WRATH OF GOD??



God has always allowed His people to suffer tribulation and trials because they purify and perfect their faith and will gain countless eternal rewards when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED. There are over 40,000 saints martyred every year and the main culprit is no longer just Islam and the Satanic Roman Catholic Church. Millions of saints were martyred by the Communist atheist countries after 1917 in Russia and after 1948 in China and then in North Korea and Vietnam. Many more millions were killed by Japan 1937-1945 and by the Fascists in Italy and Germany 1922-1945.



Romans 8:35-37: �Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?... For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered. No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us!� I Peter 1:6-8:���In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so that your faith may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED.��



I Peter 2:20b,21: �But if you suffer for doing good and endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow IN HIS STEPS.� I Peter 4:12,13: �Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. But REJOICE that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when His glory is *REVEALED!� Rev 2:10: Jesus says, �Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the Crown of Life.� Read other persecution verses: Matthew 5:10-12; Romans 5:3; Heb 13:35-40; 2 Tim 3:12; 2 Cor 1:7-10; I Thess 3:3,4; Phil 1:29; Phil 3:10; Rev 12:11; Rev 13:9,10 & Rev 14:13.



������ The courageous and faithful Tribulation saints will *NOT* be hurt by God�s *WRATH* as shown in Rev 14:9-11; 15:1,7; 16:1,19; or in any of the 7 trumpet or 7 bowl plagues as explained in Rev 9:4,20,21 and Rev 16:2,4-6,9,10,21; or in any of the plagues of God�s 2 witnesses as per Rev 11:6,10; or in *ETERNAL HELL*: Rev 14:9-11: �If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he will drink of the wine of God�s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of *HIS WRATH*.� He will be tormented with burning sulfur and the smoke of their torment rises forever and ever.�



The pre-tribs often confuse the wrath of God with the persecution from the anti-christ. They are not the same thing. The wrath of God is intended for the ungodly and will be poured upon them and them only. The Lord knows His target and He never misses. Jesus warned in Matthew 10:28, �And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.�



In Rev 18:1-24 we read about the plagues that will destroy the headquarters of 666 during the Great Tribulation. This evil city on 7 hills {See Rev 17:9} is called �Babylon� which Peter implied was the nickname for Rome in 2 Peter 5:13. In Rev 18:4 a voice from Heaven will order God's saints to stay away from Babylon {Rome-That great seaport-Rev 18:17-19} so that they will not participate in her sins or be hurt by God's wrath which will completely destroy Rome with many horrific plagues.



There are 260 verses from Revelation chapters 6 thru 20 and 128 of these verses or 49% tell of the wrath of God to unbelievers, 666, his False Prophet and Rome. However, not even one of these verses tells of any wrath of God toward His courageous Tribulation saints. Even pre-tribbers and mid-tribbers reluctantly agree that believers during the Great Tribulation will be exempt from the wrath of God.



Jesus says, �My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one!� John 17:15



Jesus says, �Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell!!�

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:36 PM

The "Great Tribulation" is over. History has already recorded in back in the first century.

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