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Posted : 17 Oct, 2013 08:17 PM

1 John 1:1�That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;�

2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)�

3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.�

4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

6 �If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:�

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8�If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

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Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 04:31 PM

18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

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"Deed and truth should show our heritage as a child of God. "





"Christian love, according to the First Epistle of John, is not mere sentiment; it is not the indiscriminate good-humor which is sometimes being mistaken for it today. It is compatible with the profoundest hatred of error, and the most zealous contending for the truth. There is nothing weak or sickly or effeminate about it. On the contrary, it requires an heroic mastery of selfishness and pride and passion."



�J. Gresham Machen

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Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:26 PM

Selfishness and pride...sins as described throughout the Bible. �The "love" you just described is nothing like the love Jesus showed. �It is clear, though, that it is the type of "love" you display...which is NOT the love of the Bible.

Maybe you should read 1 Corinthians 13 which describes Christian love (charity):

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1 Corinthians 13:1�Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.�

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.�

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,�

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;�

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;�

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.�

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.�

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.�

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

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Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:33 PM

You should make more of an effort to understand and grasp the concepts being promoted instead of just attacking "words" in such a myopic and pedestrian fashion.

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Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:39 PM

I fully understood what you posted...and it clears up even more about you as an individual.

It isn't rocket science...and even if it was I would be able to handle it.

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Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:57 PM

You grossly overestimate your own understanding. It's obvious that you missed the concepts being conveyed by your myopic and pedestrian response.

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Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 07:50 PM

They were the words you posted...selfishness and pride. I see it reflected in your words in many of your posts, not the fruits of the Spirit described in Galatians.

I don't need wit or imagination to understand your words or the Bible. I don't need to see beyond the Bible to understand God.

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Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 07:56 PM

As I said, you attack the words and miss the broader concept being conveyed by the words. This is typical Pharisee style interpretation. They too missed the message.

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Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 08:28 PM

The message you posted was clear. Just a few sentences exposed even more about you. And your follow on posts just add to it.

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1 John 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.�

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Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 08:34 PM

You keep quoting that verse as though you understand what it says and adhere to it. Please take note that love is connected with TRUTH.

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Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 12:29 AM

So, now I would like to prove a very valuable point. I chose a specific quote that was designed to illustrate Teach's total failure to comprehend what she reads. I specifically chose this quote because it offered some meaning to the subject at hand but it also forced one to demonstrate understanding. I fully expected that Teach would miss the point completely and she did. As I always say, she is 180 degrees wrong in her comprehension and understanding.



As a result of her own failure, she took the opportunity to personally attack and insult me. In typical fashion, she tries to pound Scripture to show that I am somehow a deviant. She chooses a couple of "key words", jumps on them in total error, and then proceeds to argue. This is the same nonsense that I put up with from her over and over again here.



Also notice, that even after I tell her that she has "missed the concepts being conveyed", she continues in her foolish pride to assert that she "fully understood what I posted", that she

"doesn't need wit or imagination to understand my words", and that "the message I posted was clear". Yes, I do agree the message that I posted was VERY clear. Yet, Teach flips it on it's head and concludes the exact opposite of what the message is saying.



Here you go Teach, let it be recorded yet another time that you are in error.



""Christian love, according to the First Epistle of John, is not mere sentiment; it is not the indiscriminate good-humor which is sometimes being mistaken for it today. It is compatible with the profoundest hatred of error, and the most zealous contending for the truth. There is nothing weak or sickly or effeminate about it. On the contrary, it requires an heroic mastery of selfishness and pride and passion.""



NOTICE: There is nothing weak or sickly or effeminate about Christian love. On the contrary, Christian love requires a brave or fearless control over selfishness, pride, and strong and barely controllable emotion.



Well, look at that. It says the exact opposite of what Teach thought it said.

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