Author	Thread: John 6:44
dljrn04 View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 06:33 PM No man can come to me (total depravity) Unless the Father (unconditional election) Who sent Me draws him (irresistable grace) And I will raise him up (limited atonement) On the last day (perserverence of the saints) ..(John 6:44 teaching all 5 points of Calvinism) Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 08:40 PM " All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." -- John 6:37 Well, "IF" that is what McGee says, he is clearly in exegetical error. NOTICE: It says that they SHALL come. ALL that are given SHALL COME. There would be no way to guarantee that ALL SHALL come if they had "free will" to do otherwise. The only way this verse makes any sense is if they are DRAWN by an irresistible method. That guarantees that ALL that are given SHALL COME. In this case, that irresistible method is God's grace. Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 08:48 PM Jude -- Truth invites scrutiny, error runs from it. Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 18 Oct, 2013 08:55 PM :applause:...Speculation ???...:bouncy:... X <>< O Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 03:10 AM The context in John 6 is not a text inspired to justify the doctrine of exclusion that is man made. The context is in total agreement with what Jesus taught the kingdom of God operates by the hearing of the Word of God, it is always left out of the Calvinist Equation. verse 45. Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 03:13 AM The context in John 6 is not a text inspired to justify the doctrine of exclusion that is man made. The context is in total agreement with what Jesus taught the kingdom of God operates by the hearing of the Word of God, it is always left out of the Calvinist Equation. verse 45. Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 05:41 AM Its just a persons rationalizing of Squishing Words into Scripture to make it say what they want it to say to prove they are right...Its taken straight from a preformed set script...much like what the Jovs use when they go house to house...if you ask them to explain it they give you more of the preformed script and cant deviate from it because its all they know because its all they have been brain washed with... X <>< O Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 07:34 AM Jude --- that's quite impossible to perform the way that you claim since one can never possibly anticipate the myriad of errors that one will face. Your example of Dr. McGee's quote is a prime example. I'd never seen a claim like that before. It's however, very easy to refute when you know the truth. If any of you understood what is being said in John 6, you would grasp the extent of the futility of your own arguments against these Scriptures. Post Reply
View Profile History	John 6:44 Posted : 19 Oct, 2013 07:40 AM No man can come to me (total depravity) < Squish Unless the Father (unconditional election) < Squish Who sent Me draws him (irresistable grace) < Squish And I will raise him up (limited atonement) < Squish On the last day (perserverence of the saints) < Squish *** Nice try but no cigar X <>< O Post Reply

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