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GOD in flesh- Part 2
Posted : 7 Jan, 2014 09:09 PM
Jan 7/2014 @ 11:57 pm
versavia806
Almaty, Kazakhstan
Age 36-40
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..Touched that you would offer such a sacrifice on my behalf?
Hi my friend, you mentioned a sacrifice? LOL No. I just recalled what my brother SANDBEACH408 told me before to be polite... LOL and I tried to be polite. But if I would talk to you in a real and not a virtual conversation it would be a fight. LOL Kidding. But who knows. LOL
I could really make a sacrifice for you to send you my comparative study of the Holy Tanakh in Hebrew to show you that the Son of God is God like His Father in the Holy Tanakh. Just let me know and I will send you it via e-mail upon request because I cannot publish here in this Forum what God said in Hebrew?only in English. This is a comparative study of Hebrew Scripture in English.
KJV 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Revised Standard 2Ti 3:16 Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness:
Young's Literal 2Ti 3:16 every Writing is God-breathed, and profitable for teaching, for conviction, for setting aright, for instruction that is in righteousness,
This is where we start running into trouble sis. I believe the scripture is supernatural / divine in origin. But the condition we are given it today ... man has had his deceitful little hands all over it and we have to be careful.
As I told you, if we do NOT understand what God said we OPEN the ORIGINAL Scripture of the Bible in Hebrew and Greek and analyze it to get the right meaning of His words.
Let me tell you that we have about 30,000 IDENTICAL copies of the Holy Scripture which we call the Bible and they are kept in museums! There is NO other historical document in such number of IDENTICAL copies! These copies exist in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. So, to analyze this Scripture we just OPEN these Scriptures written in the ORIGINAL language Hebrew for instance and we analyze every word. Let?s do the same analysis now of the Greek manuscripts which you mentioned above:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
What should be written here for instruction which is in righteousness or something else?
In Greek we read: for training in righteousness (pros, paideian, en, dikaiosynē).
So the meaning is "and training in righteousness", "and teaches us to do what is right", "and training them for a life that has God's approval", "for instruction in right doing".
So there is NO problem with the ORIGINAL language! But if do NOT like you translation then CHANGE it to what I prefer: The New King James version.
You know when I teach Muslims what is written in the Bible, often I am also angry that I have to use some translations of the Bible in Arabic which do NOT comply with what I know and then I ANALYZE the ORIGINAL language Hebrew and get the REAL meaning of the verses. I am looking for the RIGHT translation of the verse in Arabic. Praise the Lord that we have MANY translations of the Bible in many languages and many translations of the Bible in Arabic which enable me to show the CORRECT meaning of Bible verses as they are written in the original HEBREW Scripture. Often I struggle with translations too. But we are NOT perfect?and our translations are NOT perfect because we are just people?But what is MORE important to understand the meaning which is BEHIND the words of God to understand our God. That is why to understand our God, we ANALYZE the original Scripture! We have to do that during all days of our life, as God said.
"You're a nut if you think you have the law of Yahweh, because the scribes changed it."
As I told you before, our Scripture is HOLY and God is able to preserve it. Because He is our almighty God. There are NO changes in the ORIGINAL Scripture which we ALL are able to analyze if we want. If we do NOT want to analyze it and make a comparison of verses which we question, then we just READ our translations and compare them with other translations of the Bible in our native languages. LOL
HOWEVER ... never fear ... Yahweh did indeed preserve it ... "in heaven", Psalms 119:89. HE, the WORD, was actually the first thing created, Rev. 3:14, with which many will disagree. When we are truly converted, that heavenly law of Yahweh, which was perfectly manifest in "the WORD made flesh" is placed in our heart, without any scribal errors, 2 Cor. 13:5. THAT is why we can end up spotting the alterations in the text today.
Psalm 119:89: Forever, O LORD, your word is settled in heaven.
What does it mean?
God's Word, or in other words Law, is eternal and unchanging!
There is NO Bible in Heaven. LOL We are NOT Muslims? LOL And the Scripture, i.e. WORDS of God, was given by God to men through prophets?.GODLY people to instruct us about the future events and to predict the Birth and Reign of the Creator of the universe Jesus.
I totally AGREE! BUT ...
Your own conclusion regarding his threat to punish them, and suggesting that it WILL happen suggests someone HAS or WILL alter it, and thereby receive the promised punishment.
LOL I have met MANY false prophets and false teachers who DELIBERATELY change the verses of the Bible in their heresies/interpretations of the Bible to MISLEAD Christians (one of them deceived thousands of Americans!!!!)and lead them directly to hell. They do it and God warned them that if anyone adds or changes anything in what God said then such people do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God. Anyway, God is keeping the small remnant from their heresies but we all have to WARN and OPOSE their false teachings. If we do NOT do that then in this case we are co-criminals too. God clearly said about that too!
Now I want you to notice the phrase "the word of Yahweh came". That is "DABAR YAHWEH CAME". And it is a separate and distinct entity from Abba Yahweh. They are BOTH spirits. BUT, as to the John 1:18 quoted above, ABBA YAHWEH has NEVER BEEN SEEN BY MAN! DABAR YAHWEH, a created entity, has ALWAYS represented ABBA YAHWEH in various "theophany" manifestation.
Right. The Son of God like His Father are separate and distinct Entities like the Holy Spirit. They are actually THREE Separate Entities UNITED and acting in UNITY and this is what we call the concept of the TRI-UNITY of God. YHWH was seen by a man. Let?s read about this meeting of the Father with the Son of God in Daniel 7:
Vision of the Ancient of Days/God
9 I watched till thrones were put in place,
And the Ancient of Days was seated;
His garment was white as snow,
And the hair of His head was like pure wool.
His throne was a fiery flame,
Its wheels a burning fire;
10 A fiery stream issued
And came forth from before Him.
A thousand thousands ministered to Him;
Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him.
The court was seated,
And the books were opened.
13 ?I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man (The SON of GOD),
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed.
The Son of God was a manifestation of God in the OT, His Messenger. He ALWAYS represented God the Father YHWH in "theophany" manifestations.
That "chosen vessel", that "body prepared", is what DABAR YAHWEH POSSESSED, and manifest in, or "dwelt among us" in. When did that happen? At the baptism of Yahshua when the Spirit descended and remained ...
Dabar Yahweh said "Sacrifice of offering thou wouldest not ..." but YAHSHUA was the BODY. Dabar Yahweh possessed that body at the baptism of Yahshua.
WRONG. The Body was prepared and used by the Son of God before His baptism! Why? He was a child at age 12 He already taught Jews in the Temple. And before the baptism of Jesus, John the Bptist acknowledged His authority and power and divine nature! Thus, throw away your STUPID speculations about the baptism from your beautiful head. LOL
I repeat the Son of God was incarnated in the human flesh NOT upon His Baptism but when He was BORN on our planet.
"Why did you seek Me? Did you not know that I must be about My Father's business?" The SON was already doing the business of His Father when He was a child.
"Learned obedience"??? Think of it!
Yes, I thought about it. LOL
This what we call subordination in the Godhead.
"Now when all things are made subject to Him (Jesus/the Son of God), then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him (His Father) who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all."
1 Cor 15:20-28
WHEN had Yahshua sinned? I have said it several times, BEFORE CONVERSION AT BAPTISM. Why do people hate this point? Because it alone DESTROYS the erroneous "need" for a virgin birth whereby the whole story now is presented that it is through the seed of man sin nature is passed. As if woman does not pass on such nature. Therefore the importance of Job 15:14 I quoted. SIN IS PASSED BY WOMAN. NOTHING BORN OF A WOMAN IS RIGHTEOUS! Yahshua was BORN OF A WOMAN, Gal. 4:4.
Jesus is sinless. We do NOT care what people say. We care only what God said. In Isaiah 53, talking about the death of Jesus, God the Father said that Jesus did NOT commit any sin. He is HOLY. Let me quote more Scripture references that you would not claim what you claimed:
2 Corinthians 5:21
He (God the Father) made Him (Jesus) who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
1 Peter 2:22
(JESUS) WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH;
Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One (the SON of God JESUS) who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.
1 John 3:5
You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.
But Dabar Yahweh was NOT born of a Woman. Dabar Yahweh POSSESSED Yahshua. The carnal nature man of Yahshua DIED AT BAPTISM and DABAR YAHWEH TOOK OVER! Yahshua NEVER SINNED AGAIN! Do you yet see why they want the virgin birth to hide these facts? They don't believe a TRUE convert can live sinless in this present evil world, and as long as you of your own power attempt it, you will fail. The old man is still not dead in such.
Let me say it this way: the Son of God existed ALWAYS and He created the universe and EVERYTHING?all visible and invisible worlds. Then He was incarnated in the human flesh. There was NO carnal nature of this Supreme Being called as the SON of God because He is GOD and HOLY like His Father. He was baptized to show us that it is a good thing to be baptized promising to God a good conscience making an example for us to do the same.
My friend, your speculations are funny and NOT biblical. I hope I helped you to get rid of this mess in your beautiful head and to OBEY the Son of God as to your God and Creator.
Now what you have to do? Confess that the Son of God is GOD. Pray to Him in a prayer and ask Him to write your name in the Book of Life. Tell Him that He is Your Creator and Savior because He imputed us His own RIGHTEOUSNESS when He died on the Cross taking the sin of the world.
If you will NOT follow this Supreme Being called as the SON of God then you are doomed to perish in the lake of Fire with unbelievers and Muslims.
Jesus, please write him name in the Book of Life and lead him to a Christian church and Your Kingdom. Father, please forgive all his sins in the name of Your beloved Son Jesus.
Holy Spirit, please descend upon him and teach him and protect him until his death.
Amen.
Two separate and distinct entities.
Amen.
For in him (JESUS) the whole fullness of deity (GOD) dwells bodily?
Colossians 2:9
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