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An expert speaks on Mathew 28:19
Posted : 9 May, 2014 07:51 AM

Here is an excerpt from:

http://separationtruth.com/resources/Spirit+vs+Water+new.pdf



Then Mr. Jackson says he knows of no "reputable Bible scholar" who contends that Matthew

28:19 is not water baptism! Well, let me have the privilege of introducing you to one. James W.

Dale whose works of some 1800 pages in 4 or 5 volumes of Hebrew, Greek and Latin syntax, on

the singular subject of baptism, and said to be "The ablest treatise on the subject in theEnglish

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language," and furthermore endorsed by Thayer personally (Thayer's Greek Lexicon, which also

says under the subject of baptism, "see esp. four works by J. W. Dale entitled Classic, Judaic,

Johannic, Christic, Baptism,") and endorsed by numerous other scholars, had this to say in his

concluding remarks about Matthew 28:19:

"The language of inspiration announces a real baptism as distinctly as can be done by

the use of words; there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE of a ritual baptism in connection

with these words...This wonderful baptism into the Trinity (depending upon the baptism

into the incarnate, atoning, and mediating Son) has no direct or designed relation to a

ritual baptism...Again, these words cannot be converted into a ritual formula, because

thereby the transcendent truth which they teach is destroyed. A rite is but a shadow.

This baptism as it stands in the commission is a reality."

(from Vol. 4, Christic Baptism, Pgs. 455, 458 & 461.

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An expert speaks on Mathew 28:19
Posted : 16 May, 2014 07:21 AM

In replyto sweethumblepie,



I respect what you sincrely believe but you are sincerely wrong.



Water baptism is an obsolete Jewish water purification ritual. There is no such thing as Christian water baptism and is not symbolic of faith. The truth is the truth even if no one believes it.



The posts I supplied prove it beyond any doubt.



God bless you!:glow:

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An expert speaks on Mathew 28:19
Posted : 16 May, 2014 11:08 AM

No I am not wrong. You disagree so therefore I must be wrong. Obviously,many a person has debated this with you on Christian Mingle!!! The fact of the matter is this: It has NOTHING to do with salvation so I see no reason to bat it around. God warned us over arguments of this very sort We could suppose this till we are blue in the face. But Im kindly not going to go there .





May we continue on in the faith pressing to the vine!

Gods grace to you:angel:

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