The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender. Pro 22:7
Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. Rom 13:8
According to the verses above God's word says that one who borrows from another person becomes that person's slave. And that we must not owe anything to anyone except love.
Question:
Does that mean that if a Christian dies with an unpaid mortgage, a car loan, etc.., then he/she will die in disobedience?
When did obeying the commands of God become legalism? I didn't get the memo.
I was saved almost nine years ago and I have never attended an apostate congregation except for a few visits to an apostate Pentecostal one which I fled from real quick.
I stay home, pray and read the Bible. I fellowship with an online assembly on Blogradio. These are other Christians who have come out of the end time apostate church.
So there is no band or just one preacher who dictates, no female teachers, no sitting and standing up like puppets, no passing of the plate,etc...
For because of this you also pay taxes, for RULERS ARE SERVANTS OF GOD, devoting themselves to this very thing. 7Render to all what is due them: TAX TO WHOM TAX IS DUE; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor. Rom 13:6-7
If tax payers money is being used for evil, don't you think God knows about it.
YOU are commanded to pay taxes, God will take care of abortions which if He is allowing them it is because He has a very good reason.
God's grace gives you the power and desire to obey not permission to disobey. You are confusing grace with mercy.
When did obeying the commands of God become legalism? I didn't get the memo.
I was saved almost nine years ago and I have never attended an apostate congregation except for a few visits to an apostate Pentecostal one which I fled from real quick.
I stay home, pray and read the Bible. I fellowship with an online assembly on Blogradio. These are other Christians who have come out of the end time apostate church.
So there is no band or just one preacher who dictates, no female teachers, no sitting and standing up like puppets, no passing of the plate,etc...
GNWS: Mimi i do believe you are in disobedience to the Word of GOD by not meeting personally with other believers.
May i ask you a question,when do you meet with believers face to face,in order to be encouraged,and to encourage others,as no man or woman is an island to themselves.
For iron to sharpen iron the two pieces must meet by being rubbed together, thus causing sparks to fly and heat to occur.
When this occurs the metals will be changed and if enough heat is applied both pieces will adhere to one another.
Also when do you go out to proclaim the Gospel with other believers,or do you just stay to yourself thus being in disobedience to the Gospel.
I would ask you another question about Romans 13:1; i hope you have added this verse to verse 8 as the context starts there.
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject to higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, but the existing authorities have been ordained by God.
M question is this,which authority is the highest in this nation,the supreme court,the president,congress,the senate or THE CONSTITUTION,I believe the Constitution is the highest authority in this nation.
Some may say the Constitution is only a piece of paper written long ago,but t has no authority by which to guide this nation.
I would answer this way, WELLthe BIBLE is only a book written so many years ago by a few men which are just a sinful as myself,how can i trust the Bible to be guiding my life.
Now as to the Constitution being the highest authority in this nation,even the president takes an oath to uphold the constitution.
By upholding the Constitution ( which does not state the people would have their pay taxed ) the president should tell the people they are not required to pay taxes according to the Constitution.
The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
The Constitution doe snot require the citizens of America to pay taxes,so where did this false taxing of the people come from,just ask the bankers.
History of the Income Tax in the United States
Source: Tax Foundation.
The nation had few taxes in its early history. From 1791 to 1802, the United States government was supported by internal taxes on distilled spirits, carriages, refined sugar, tobacco and snuff, property sold at auction, corporate bonds, and slaves. The high cost of the War of 1812 brought about the nation's first sales taxes on gold, silverware, jewelry, and watches. In 1817, however, Congress did away with all internal taxes, relying on tariffs on imported goods to provide sufficient funds for running the government.
In 1862, in order to support the Civil War effort, Congress enacted the nation's first income tax law. It was a forerunner of our modern income tax in that it was based on the principles of graduated, or progressive, taxation and of withholding income at the source. During the Civil War, a person earning from $600 to $10,000 per year paid tax at the rate of 3%. Those with incomes of more than $10,000 paid taxes at a higher rate. Additional sales and excise taxes were added, and an �inheritance� tax also made its debut. In 1866, internal revenue collections reached their highest point in the nation's 90-year history�more than $310 million, an amount not reached again until 1911.
The Act of 1862 established the office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue. The Commissioner was given the power to assess, levy, and collect taxes, and the right to enforce the tax laws through seizure of property and income and through prosecution. The powers and authority remain very much the same today.
I have separated this section to show that the Supreme Court had ruled that 'TAXING ' the citizens of the United States of America was UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
In 1868, Congress again focused its taxation efforts on tobacco and distilled spirits and eliminated the income tax in 1872. It had a short-lived revival in 1894 and 1895. In the latter year, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the income tax was unconstitutional because it was not apportioned among the states in conformity with the Constitution.
In 1913, the 16th Amendment to the Constitution made the income tax a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system. The amendment gave Congress legal authority to tax income and resulted in a revenue law that taxed incomes of both individuals and corporations. In fiscal year 1918, annual internal revenue collections for the first time passed the billion-dollar mark, rising to $5.4 billion by 1920. With the advent of World War II, employment increased, as did tax collections�to $7.3 billion. The withholding tax on wages was introduced in 1943 and was instrumental in increasing the number of taxpayers to 60 million and tax collections to $43 billion by 1945.
In 1981, Congress enacted the largest tax cut in U.S. history, approximately $750 billion over six years. The tax reduction, however, was partially offset by two tax acts, in 1982 and 1984, that attempted to raise approximately $265 billion.
On Oct. 22, 1986, President Reagan signed into law the Tax Reform Act of 1986, one of the most far-reaching reforms of the United States tax system since the adoption of the income tax. The top tax rate on individual income was lowered from 50% to 28%, the lowest it had been since 1916. Tax preferences were eliminated to make up most of the revenue. In an attempt to remain revenue neutral, the act called for a $120 billion increase in business taxation and a corresponding decrease in individual taxation over a five-year period.
Following what seemed to be a yearly tradition of new tax acts that began in 1986, the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1990 was signed into law on Nov. 5, 1990. As with the '87, '88, and '89 acts, the 1990 act, while providing a number of substantive provisions, was small in comparison with the 1986 act. The emphasis of the 1990 act was increased taxes on the wealthy.
On Aug. 10, 1993, President Clinton signed the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993 into law. The act's purpose was to reduce by approximately $496 billion the federal deficit that would otherwise accumulate in fiscal years 1994 through 1998. In 1997, Clinton signed another tax act. The act, which cut taxes by $152 billion, included a cut in capital-gains tax for individuals, a $500 per child tax credit, and tax incentives for education.
President George W. Bush signed a series of tax cuts into law. The largest was the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001. It was estimated to save taxpayers $1.3 trillion over ten years, making it the third largest tax cut since World War II. The Bush tax cut created a new lowest rate, 10% for the first several thousand dollars earned. It also established a slow schedule of incremental tax cuts that would eventually double the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, adjust brackets so that middle-income couples owed the same tax as comparable singles, cut the top four tax rates (28% to 25%; 31% to 28%; 36% to 33%; and 39.6% to 35%).
The Jobs and Growth Tax Relief and Reconciliation Act of 2003 accelerated the tax rate cuts that had been enacted in 2001, and temporarily reduced the tax rate on capital gains and dividends to 15%. In 2004, the U.S. was forced to eliminate a corporate tax provision that had been ruled illegal by the World Trade Organization. Along with that tax hike, Congress passed a cornucopia of tax breaks, which for individuals included an option to deduct the payment of whichever state taxes were higher, sales or income taxes.
Two tax bills signed in 2005 and 2006 extended through 2010 the favorable rates on capital gains and dividends that had been enacted in 2003, raised the exemption levels for the Alternative Minimum Tax, and enacted new tax incentives designed to persuade individuals to save more for retirement.
Read more: History of the Income Tax in the United States | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html#ixzz36ZDuuAtu
GNWS: Thank you for expounding on the topic of the constitution and taxes. The federal reserve ( a handful of people) that dont pay taxes themselves is who are paid! Ha!! I dont know about you but it sickens me the plan of satans that has been in play . But Glory be to God that we have Jesus to give us peace and joy and strength amongst our adversaries right!! Hallelujah for Yahwah is my fortress.
Like I said earlier. In the breadth of things Id reckon the topic of taxes or paying bills is majoring in the minors.
Pres. Obama: �Our Founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change than I would like sometimes.�
Uh, that�s because the Founders were trying to prevent exactly what you are trying to do, Mr. President. They did not want the Federal Government to dominate the life of every citizen from cradle to grave. They wanted people to be free � to earn their own keep and keep what they earn. What a concept.
Am glad to see that you pay your taxes while turning a deaf are and a blind eye to truth about the UNGODLY tax system,and what the Word of GOD says about being under those in authority which will do evil to those under them.
My question to you Mimi is this;Did you vote for Obama ?
Geez mimi, you really got me and my ilk all figured out, and hey, your probably right 90 percent of the time. I feel sorted, sized up, categorized, bundled ,batched, labeled, packaged, marketed and sold! BAM!
WOW please don't tell me that now I have to go tell all the neighbors? that they don't love the Lord? and their not going to receive what? the Lords love? or favor? or reward? or maybe even salvation? or what? all because we're breaking a commandment? and have a mortgage? and HOW MANY commandments are there? 400+NT?! WHAT!!! Geez Ya gotta list Im gunna need it when I go out knockin on doors. Its gunna be a tough sell mimi.
Funny here in the US the government gives tax credits and other incentives to get a mortgage but that�s not why most people get one, most get a mortgage to get their families out of an apartment and into a home and a mortgage is the only way that most can do it, we call it the American dream, fully condoned and encouraged by our government. Our home raised kids and grand kids; true blessings from the Lord.
Ya know I love the fruit of a good biblical discerner, their always blessed with humility, humble and humor. hehe
