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Posted : 22 Aug, 2011 12:25 PM

The Protestant Reformers Were Frauds

An Anabaptist speaks out.

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Also see Martin Luther, the Deranged Theologian

Martin Luther was not a great reformer like the history books teach, but he was a fraud!



Here are some quotes from Luther which shows that he taught the heresy of Once Saved Always Saved:



"Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here in this world we have to sin. This life is not a dwelling place of righteousness"



"No sin will separate us from the lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."



"Whenever the devil harasses you, seek the company of men or drink more, or joke and talk nonsense, or do some other merry thing. Sometimes we must drink more, sport, recreate ourselves, and even sin a little to spite the devil, so that we leave him no place for troubling our consciences with trifles. We are conquered if we try too conscientiously not to sin at all. So when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."



"The imputation of righteousness we need very much, because we are far from perfect. As long as we have this body, sin will dwell in our flesh. Then, too, we sometimes drive away the holy spirit; we fall into sin, like Peter, David, and other holy men. Nevertheless we may always take recourse to this fact, that our sins are covered, and that God will not lay them to our charge. Sin is not held against us for Christ's sake."



"your sin cannot cast you into hell"



"No sin can harm me"



LUTHER WAS AN ANTI-SEMITE



Here are some quite shocking quotes from Luther which show that he was a rabid anti-Semite:



"The Jews deserve to be hanged on gallows, seven times higher than ordinary thieves"



"We ought to take revenge on the Jews and kill them."



"The blind Jews are truly stupid fools"



"Now just behold these miserable, blind, and senseless people."



"eject them forever from this country"



"they are nothing but thieves and robbers"



"What then shall we do with this damned, rejected race of Jews?"



"Such a desperate, thoroughly evil, poisonous, and devilish lot are these Jews"



"They are the real liars and bloodhounds"



"We are at fault for not slaying them."



"I shall give you my sincere advice: first to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them."



"Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed."



"Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews."



"Burn down their synagogues, forbid all that I enumerated earlier, force them to work, and deal harshly with them"



"If this does not help we must drive them out like mad dogs"



"If I had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the river Elbe, hang a stone around his neck and push him over with the words `I baptize thee in the name of Abraham'."



Martin Luther [ was not a Christian man, ] but, instead, he was a brutal man who persecuted the Jews unmercifully.



The word of God calls Martin Luther a liar:



1John 4:20- If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?



LUTHER CONDONED THE DEATHS OF A 100,000 PEASANTS



The peasants of Germany revolted in 1525 because of their miserable living conditions and were slaughtered at the behest of Martin Luther!



Here is a quote from Luther that will send chills up your spine:



"They should be knocked to pieces, strangled and stabbed, secretly and openly, by everybody who can do it, just as one must kill a mad dog!"



Are these the words of a Christian and a great reformer? I think not! Luther was an evil man who urged the slaughter of the poor who had revolted. He told people to knock the peasants to pieces and strangle and stab them. 100,000 German peasants were horribly slaughtered in the revolt!



JOHN CALVIN WAS A MURDERER



Not only was the founder of Calvinism, John Calvin, a great deceiver, but he was also a murderer!



Here are John Calvin's own words about Michael Servetus:



"If he (Servetus) comes (to Geneva), I shall never let him go out alive if my authority has weight."



"I hope that the verdict will call for the death penalty."



In Geneva, on October 27, 1553, Michael Servetus was tied to a stake and was burned slowly to death:



www.encyclopedia.com/articlesnew/11716.html



Here is what John Calvin had to say about Michael Servetus after he was burned to death:



"Many people have accused me of such ferocious cruelty that (they allege) I would like to kill again the man I have destroyed. Not only am I indifferent to their comments, but I rejoice in the fact that they spit in my face."



"Whoever shall now contend that it is unjust to put heretics and blasphemers to death will knowingly and willingly incur their very guilt."



John Calvin [ was not a �Christian�, ] my friends, but he was an egotistical tyrant and a cold-blooded killer!



How anyone can follow the warped teachings of this deranged monster from the past is beyond belief.



A man named Sebastian Castellio wrote against what Calvin did to Servetus and he made this tremendous statement:



"To kill a man is not to defend a doctrine. It is to kill a man!"



Castellio paid a great price for standing up to Calvin the tyrant. He was hounded and persecuted by John Calvin until his death.



Murderers like John Calvin and Martin Luther are not Christians:



1 John 3:15- ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.



For more on Calvin see Calvinism and The Servetus Murder



In five years, 1542-46, Geneva, with 16,000 inhabitants, had fifty-seven executions and seventy-six banishments. All these sentences were [ sanctioned ] by John Calvin.



Let's take a look at the two so-called great reformers of the protestant reformation:



1. Martin Luther was a false teacher, a racist, a persecutor and a murderer!



2. John Calvin was a false teacher, a deranged tyrant, a persecutor and a murderer!



The Protestant Reformation was a farce!



THE PROTESTANT `REFORMERS' PERSECUTED, TORTURED AND SLAUGHTERED THE ANABAPTISTS



Link to true accounts of how the Anabaptists were tortured and murdered at the hands of the Protestants:



"The Martyrs Mirror"



www.homecomers.org/mirror/contents.htm



Do Christians persecute, torture and murder other human beings? Of course they don't! The Protestant Reformers were not Christians, but they were bloody evil men.



*** The Truth is NOT an Opinion�Why would Anyone want to Follow ANY man�s doctrine or ways instead of Christ Jesus ???�Thank you and Praise you Father for your Word�Acts 11:26 �And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. [ And the disciples were called [ Christians ] first in Antioch.��notice in God�s Word�it doesn�t say Lutheran or Calvinist or Reformer or Anabaptist or Catholic or�etc�etc�etc�etc�xo

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 08:50 AM

Wow Ella,



You have shown just exactly what and who you are!



I try to cite either Scripture or what source (Book or website or magazine or Whatever my source is) so as to show that I



do not make up what I say or heard it from some other person...



"Hear say".



If you cannot show where you "got" your information...then I Must assume that you either



"Made it up" or heard it from someone else.



People say that Jesus had a child with Mary Magdalene...but when you check the "source"...you will see that it is a Gnostic Creation and therefore OUTRAGOUS! ( not to mention UnScriptural)



So Ella...I am happy for you that you find all this Humorous.



Is that what your were Taught in Seminary School...that in a debate...you do not have to cite where your information comes from?



No college or Accredited School would ever ALLOW that.



So I will ask you once again...I cannot find this "source" anywhere. Would you...Please...pretty Please...with Sugar on it...Share with me (us)...your Source?

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 09:15 AM

PJ: Don't Paul's words speak for themselves? See yourself in Paul's rebuke.

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 09:45 AM

Romans 8:28-39: "We know that all things God works for the good of those who love Him, who:rolleyes: have been called according to His purpose. For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of His Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those:rolleyes: He predestined, He also called; those He called He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified!!

What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but gave Him up for us all--how will He not also , along with him, graciously give us all things?Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns? Christ Jesus, who died--more than that who was raised to life--is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword?...No in all these things we are more then conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels or demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.":applause:



John 6:39,44: Jesus says, "This is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall ****LOSE NONE**** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up on the Last Day...No one can come to Me **UNLESS* the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!":applause:



John 1:13,14: To all who received Him {Jesus}..He gave the right to became children of God--children born not of natural descent, nor of *HUMAN DECISION** or of a husband's will, but BORN OF GOD!"



Ephesians 2:6-10: And God {The Father} raised us up:rolleyes: with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might show the incomparable riches of His grace, expressed in His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is be *GRACE* {Unmerited favor} you have been saved, through faith--and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the {100%} *GIFT* of God--**NOT BY WORKS**, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do!"



There will be two comings of Jesus on the same Last Day. The first will be **FOR** His saints and the second will be **WITH** His saints just after the Marriage Feast of the Lamb as per Revelation 19:8-20 and Revelation 17:14 "They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings-- and **WITH HIM* will be His **CALLED **, **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!!":applause:



God only *CALLS** and CHOOSES** those He knows will be **FAITHFUL**.



Matthew 13:18-23: Jesus says, "Listen to what the parable of the sower means: When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it {Such as all Roman Catholics}, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is the seed sown along the path. The one who received the seed that fell on rocky places is the man who hears the Word and at once receives it with joy: But since he has no root, he lasts only a short time. When trouble or persecution {See Matt 24:9-13} comes because of the Word, he quickly falls away. the one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the Word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth {The Prosperity Gospel} choke it making it unfruitful. But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the Word and understands it. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown!"



He is one of the **CALLED**, **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL**!!:angel:

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 09:48 AM

Sourced from the Dusty Archives ~ my notebook of studies...I appoligize for not notating the original author which would give greedance to the validity...as in most articles...it is purely opinion with historical timeline...xo



The theory which is today commonly known by the name �Calvinism� was [[[ first introduced by Augustine ]]] in the fourth century. He taught that Christ did not die for all men, but for a chosen few whom God had chosen and predestinated to become His children. He taught that all others were created to go to Hell. He taught that all those who were chosen to go to Heaven were as good as in Heaven and all those whom God chose to go to Hell were as good as in Hell. Augustine was later given sainthood by the Roman Catholic Church.



Over 1000 years later, John Calvin, an ex-Catholic, revived this teaching which had been forgotten since the death of Augustine. It is from Calvin that the teaching received its name, Calvinism.



[ Augustine, the father of the teaching,] also taught that infant baptism was necessary in order to go to Heaven. He taught that a person could have genuine regeneration, genuine piety, and even genuine faith, but without membership in the Catholic Church, these would avail him nothing and he would go to Hell. He is also responsible for the teaching of sinless perfection.[ Many of the errors in the Catholic Church today can be traced to the writings of Augustine. ]



As for John Calvin, he was not a Baptist. He was a Reformer. He was not Christian in his attitude and behavior. He was a Tyrant who cast those who Disagreed with him into prison.



In 1553, Micheal Servetus, a Spaniard, a scholar, a physician, a scientist of originality, and a man who was deeply religious and devoted to Christ, vigorously opposed Calvin on the doctrines of predestination and infant baptism [Bible Believers Resource Page note: while Servetus is to be commended for opposing predestination and infant baptism, some resources note that he also taught against the essential Christian doctrine of the Trinity which is heresy]...xo

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 10:19 AM

Your a broken record Godsjude: How do you explain all the souls who have not nor will accept Christ?

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 10:41 AM

Of course they do but it is no where close to what Paul is saying.



Jesus has no part in any shadow a lie, nor does he appoint those that proclaim a doctrine of lies.

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 11:23 AM

Itasca shared ~ Your a broken record Godsjude: How do you explain all the souls who have not nor will accept Christ?



*** Then don�t listen�its your Choice�but Please do Listen to the WORD in answering your question which has nothing to do with this thread or discussion�xo



If you do not accept Christ Jesus�Matthew 7:23 Jesus speaking ~ � And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. �



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If you do accept Christ Jesus�Matthew 25:21 ~ His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 11:30 AM

GJ: Your full of hate and condemnation. Very un-Christ like. If you wish to argue against Calvin do so with patients and love. You make John Calvin out to be an evil Godless man which is an out right lie. You mark my word your spiritual blindness and arrogance is going to get you into trouble one of these days.

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 11:54 AM

PJ: I am not sure your last post was addressed to me but I felt compelled to discuss verse 10 of my previous post:



10 By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ."



" No one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ."



When we as believers minister to lost souls or our fellow believers, we become "builders" who use the materials lovingly articulated by the great saints who lived and died before us such the Apostle Paul, John Calvin, Martin Luther etc, the Holy Spirit then guides our hearts and minds as we place the truths these great men labored to bring to us. If these saints teachings do not conform to scripture they can not be place on the foundation Christ laid for us. Did these me err? Yes-- they are human, but if you are spiritually minded you will quickly discern the error and reject that portion of their work. But within the writings of these Godly men are the seeds of the faith and much can be learned from them. Teach in Love, judge in Love , disciple in Love other wise you are not behaving in a Christ like fashion and are in sin.

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Posted : 23 Aug, 2011 12:21 PM

Itasca shared ~ GJ: Your full of hate and condemnation. Very un-Christ like. If you wish to argue against Calvin do so with patients and love. You make John Calvin out to be an evil Godless man which is an out right lie. You mark my word your spiritual blindness and arrogance is going to get you into trouble one of these days.



*** In five years, 1542-46, Geneva, with 16,000 inhabitants, had fifty-seven executions and seventy-six banishments. All these sentences were [ sanctioned ] by John Calvin�.This is a Historical fact�No getting around that hill of travesty and that is un-Christ like in the most impure form and you call me full of hate & condemnation ???�I have answered your question about the souls with patience, Scriptural WORD and Love�if you are Blinded to the Truth that Calvinism is a false doctrine then that�s betwixt you and GOD�I am only the messenger�Hava God Holy Spirit filled day and know that you are loved�xo

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