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Can anyone right divide this response?
Posted : 27 Jan, 2012 10:57 PM

I posted this here Elisha so maybe you will be accountable, and know I am not going to agree with when you disagree with the word of God.



Question is man flesh?



PJ , man is most definatly born a sinner, what in the world are you talking about? the flesh is sinful if we do nothing we naturaly sin we must make deceisions not to sin, I have been in a full gospel church all of my life and I have never heard anyone even hint around that we were not born into being a sinner if in fact we were not born sinful then there would be a slim possibility that we could keep the law and nobody can kep the law PJ, I think you make stuff up as you go that sounds like you had some kind of revalation and God told you something we dont know,







You know who else that happend to don toyu?







Joseph smith!!



Just kidding but for real PJ what you are saying is border line on something I am not willing to say about you but its bad, we are born sinners!



Why dont you please please speak clearly and stop talking in riddels its confusing and I dont understand what your points are which is starting to make me a little suspsiouse!







By the way when you start pointing fingers calling me carnal that is implying that you are more spiritual than I am and that is sin too my brother you are not to be comparing anyone to your self you are only to compare yourself to Jesus then maybe you can put into prespective your own nature, I wouldnt call you carnal PJ whether I thought I was more spiritual than you or not! My unbelief is not sin because you have yet to give me the word of God to support what you are trying to claim and also I said I believe the Lord prospers his children all I ever said is if a mans heart is wrong and he is giving for the wrong reasons just for self gain he is sinning and that is not the gospel.







Sometimes I wonder if you afre reading what I am saying PJ cause you keep saying and acusing me of the exact opposit of what I have said and implied



No, not once maybe it is not saying what you mean, or knowing what the word of God teaches.

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2012 01:14 PM

////////////////NEW GUY THAT IS YOUR REFLECTION OF CHRISTIANITY I HAVE NO PROBLEM OF ADMITTING ERROR, yOU DON'T SAY YOU ARE WRONG BECUASE PEOPLE HAVE DOCTRINE TOTALLY WRONG.



NO MAN THAT BELIEVES MAN WITHOUT GOD CAN NOT RESPOND TO THE WORD OF gOD HAS ANY IDEA WHAT THE TRUTH IS.

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2012 06:28 PM

Are you speaking in tongues because I have no clue what you just said?



Is there someone out here who has the gift of interpretation???



I think(and I certainly don't have interpretation gifts) that you are saying that anyone who disagrees with you has no faith and is therefore unable to respond to you because only you speak God's Word in which they are unable to understand. If that is the point you were making then your pride and elitism is off the charts.



You remind me of the pharisees who looked down on everyone who was not one of them and chastised them for not following "their" rules as if they spoke for God.



You are treading in shallow water my friend and my advice for you is to remove yourself from this site so that you do not lead anymore astray in which you will be fully accountable for. God will not be mocked and you are mocking Him.



Because this is a public forum I have no problem pointing out your sin and asking you to repent. There are too many young believers here who might fall for your lies and I will not have my Lord shamed nor allow you to freely spread your lies without speaking against it because I don't want them misled nor do I want to be responsible to my Lord for doing nothing about it.



You are in my prayers.

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Posted : 30 Jan, 2012 04:52 AM

Any That choose their own path and call it Christianity will always be challenged by the truth.



The answer is simple just turn fro your own selfish way and come to Jesus and allow him to teach you the truth, and you will stop speaking evil of him.

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Posted : 30 Jan, 2012 07:01 AM

That is what I ben trying to say newguy . PJ just cause I dont agree with you does not mean automaticly that I am in unbelief because to classify me in unbelief on a given subject you must first decide a few things #1 maybe you are wrong

(which is what I think on the subject of prosperity) #2 its possible that you have been mislead or decieved which would still make you wrong but someone else decieved you (i think you figured out the le on your own) #3 we are having a misunderstanding and you are not understanding what it is i am trying to say or vise versa you have several times completly ignored my statements that TV evangilists prey on por people by convincing them they wont be poor anymore if they send what little they have , I didint say all prosperity ws wrong just that doctrine in which the intent is self gain and not just love for the Lord and others a doctrine in which your soul purpose in giving is to increase yourself is completly contrary to the gospel of Christ and the Laws in which He said we are to Love others we are to be denying self so if we are giving just so we can recieve thats sin!!



who disagrees with that last statement

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Posted : 30 Jan, 2012 07:17 AM

Jesus did not figure himself out wrong, now you did it again Elisha you see you want to be wrong, it is not hard to enter into unbelief.

There will always be job's comforters



It is a choice to walk in faith and only those that walk in faith please the father.



Jesus is man's prosperity to whom will believe.



No I did not get it wrong by believing in the lord Jesus and his redemption and no amount of the mocking and scorning and unbelief will change his word.



To love him all will have to forsake his opinion's and accept the truth of the word of God.



In case you not sure what I have said, The gospel is prosperity and prosperity to every aspect of unbelief.

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Posted : 30 Jan, 2012 11:07 AM

To PEEj :



Hey PEEj , i will post some Old Covenant Scripture with the definitions of some of the Words.



Read them and give your understanding as to the nature of man from birth.



I will use 3 or more translations when necessary.





Genesis 8:21



(KJV) And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.



(KJV+) And the LORDH3068 smelledH7306 a sweetH5207 (H853) savour;H7381 and the LORDH3068 saidH559 inH413 his heart,H3820 I will notH3808 againH3254 curseH7043 (H853) the groundH127 any moreH5750 for man's sake;H5668 H120 forH3588 the imaginationH3336 of man'sH120 heartH3820 is evilH7451 from his youth;H4480 H5271 neitherH3808 will I againH3254 smiteH5221 any moreH5750 (H853) every thingH3605 living,H2416 asH834 I have done.H6213



(LITV) And Jehovah smelled the soothing fragrance, and Jehovah said in His heart, I will never again curse the ground for the sake of man, because the imagination of the heart of man is evil from his youth. Yea, I will not again smite every living thing as I have done.



(YLT) and Jehovah smelleth the sweet fragrance, and Jehovah saith unto His heart, `I continue not to disesteem any more the ground because of man, though the imagination of the heart of man is evil from his youth; and I continue not to smite any more all living, as I have done;



English-Youth

Hebrew-nâ‛ûr / ne‛ûrâh





H5271

נערה / נער / נעוּר /

nâ‛ûr / ne‛ûrâh

BDB Definition:

1) youth, early life

Part of Speech: noun feminine

A Related Word by BDB/Strong�s Number: properly, passive participle from H5288 as denominative







Jeremiah 17:9



(KJV) The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?



(KJV+) The heartH3820 is deceitfulH6121 above allH4480 H3605 things, and desperately wicked:H605 whoH4310 can knowH3045 it?



(LITV) The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is incurable; who can know it?



(YLT) Crooked is the heart above all things, And it is incurable--who doth know it?







Mar 7:15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

Mar 7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.

Mar 7:17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.

Mar 7:18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

Mar 7:19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

Mar 7:20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

Mar 7:21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

Mar 7:22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

Mar 7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.





PEEj ,everyone except Yeshua, which is born of a woman is born with a SINFILLED nature..





Only trusting Yeshau will change a persons mind,and heart.



Shalom

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Posted : 30 Jan, 2012 11:23 AM

:zzzz:...:devil:...:boxing:...:angeldevil:...[ insert waking :excited: up icon here ]...oh thank God...:bouncy:...its just another night / day mare...Good...now I'll jus say a lil...:prayingf:...and can get back to sleep and leave it all to God...:yay:...:zzzz:...xo

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Posted : 30 Jan, 2012 12:03 PM

Well George we can always expect a dish of unbelief from you.



Remember Jesus loves you, George.



George what good is trust if you deny Jesus?

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