Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 10:18 AM
Are trying to "EVANGELIZE" in this and other forums? I mean seriously.
I've been reading some people's topics here and they seem to be acting as if they are in a pagan country and have to evangelize by preaching every doctrine but that of the life, death, resurrection and the forgiveness of sins we have received through his shedding his blood on the cross and the eternal life with God and the reconciliation of a relationship we will receive if we believe upon Him.
I've not seen any here trying to encourage others in topics. I have seen many try to separate themselves from each other here though. Ironically enough the person that unites us all is hardly ever the similarity or the object of of use to bring us together here.
I admit, I am a teacher, so I try to ask questions to get one to pay attention to something in full before they respond.( By the way, people. I'm giving you a hint as to WHY I make topics now so please don't go all Pharisitical and start condemning. ) I do this to try to get people to respond so that there is something to be learned by all and occasionally correct a stumbling sibling. BUT MAN! I've seen more people call others non-believers here and question whether the person is Spirit filled! Talk about some serious misapplication of Scripture and Godlike principles that the Word speaks of. I mean, since when did Paul EVER question whether the believers were spirit filled in the stumbling congregations he addressed his rebuke to?
And this debate and arguing stuff that I've been seeing here? How passive aggressive is that? People just throwing out verses in a strong arming brow beating manner to have the other in submissive surrender to a misapplied with out any explanation except:
You're an unbeliever.
You're not spiritually mature like I am.
Who is your teacher?
I'm going to pray for you and you should pray for me.
You are a non-repentant sinner.
You don't have the Holy Spirit.
Don't question me because you are a trouble maker.
Don't question things in the Bible because your faith is not strong enough or not really in the right standing.
I'm not going to listen to anything you say because you don't believe the same as me.
Your spirit is unclean.
You are spiritually ignorant.
You think too much.
Don't think at all.
You are not worth listening to.
I don't know about you but all these traits are something that Jesus rebuked the Pharisee for doing in the Gospels. So WHY as Christians, are we all doing this here when our Lord Strictly rebuked those who did such things?
Where is our child like ability to listen to one another and our God given patience to not react and STUDY for OURSELVES as to what God tells us INDIVIDUALLY through HIS SPIRIT so that He can be FULLY MANIFEST in OUR COLLECTIVE UNITY to express HIS OVERABUNDANT RICHES instead of go to someone else other than the Holy Spirit that makes you understand the very words on your Bible?
Again, Why are you here?
If it is to evangelize then this forum isn't the place cause there are only a very few people that read this things so GO and preach Christ in the WORLD. But if we constantly gather in a place where we see EVERYONE FOLLOW THE SAME CHRIST then LET US ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPIRIT OF PEACE THAT IS IN US and actively DISPLAY nothing but LOVE to the one who is CALLED and CALLS upon THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
May the taste of Lord Jesus Christ be the constant taste on your lips other than coffee this morning. And may His EXAMPLE be the sustenance that your stomach is nourished by as you inspect the fruit that you bring to and from your mouth.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 11:16 PM
Here is an example of a crummy responce that tears down and does not eddify ,explain or build up
The Lord would not agree with your unbelief, you have called Jesus a liar and your responce is not one that comes from the holy spirit... You have made the word of truth of no effect!
WHAT DID I JUST SAY??
A WHOLE BUNCH OF NOTHING THAT TOE SOMEONE DOWN AND DIDNT EXPLAIN WHY I THINK THEY ARE WRONG!!!
i completly made it up but its an example of the repplys I have seen on here alot and its mean and edifies nobody teaches nobody ,builds up nobody and does not bring glory to God in anyway in fact it BRINGS REPROACH!!!
if your gonna tear someone down at leas explain and give scriputre that actulky relates to the subject..
thank you in advance for considerat well meaning polite non judgemental responces in the future..
and george I am with you bro I am so close to being out of here its crazy caue the doctrine I adhere to is closer to the ones I am beginging to see as pharcees myself and I mostly disagree with you and sal as far as doctrine but at least yall got good manners and you dont throw stones and name call all the time I am slowly getting fed up if you notcie my apearences get fewer and fewer I dont like being talked to llike I am on here
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 18 Feb, 2012 11:34 PM
I admit, I am a teacher, so I try to ask questions to get one to pay attention to something in full before they respond.( By the way, people. I'm giving you a hint as to WHY I make topics now so please don't go all Pharisitical and start condemning. ) I do this to try to get people to respond so that there is something to be learned by all and occasionally correct a stumbling sibling. BUT MAN! I've seen more people call others non-believers question whethhere and er the person is Spirit filled! Talk about some serious misapplication of Scripture and Godlike principles that the Word speaks of. I mean, since when did Paul EVER question whether the believers were spirit filled in the stumbling congregations he addressed his rebuke to?
1 There is no resemblance of a teacher assuming you are referring to the word of God.
It is impossible to teach and continually deny the most important topic of the Bible.
2. Speaking the truth is not condemning it is loving.
3. There is no questioning whether you are Spirit filled or not, you yourself said you did not believe the teaching.
4. Paul knew they had received The Holy Spirit for he taught that truth wherever he went.
The Bible was not written to denominations it was written to church and the teaching of Receiving The Holy Spirit has never changed.
It has nothing to do with knowing in part, but everything to do with receiving the word of God.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 19 Feb, 2012 07:54 AM
elishabroadway Posted : agapeton, I must say I have to agree with you about women in the church the definatly shouldnt be pastors at all, and I am not real clear on what you think about women teaching sunday school to children and other women but I think thats ok, as women should be teaching the children and other women tjhat only makes sence, and I believe that the scripture is speaking against women being teachers of men, but women should KNOW THEIR PLACE in the church and at home its a place of submission, and thats right dressing modestly adorning ourselfs with Christ Jesus!!
ME: Thank you, sister Elisha, because of your obedience to Christ by confirming the very truth of Scripture. It is good and just in the Word of God that women should teach children and women to be loving and good wives for that is what the Word of God commands. But they too have requirements that have to be met. Here are some for women without spouses who want to teach.
1Ti 5:3 Honor widows who are truly widows.
1Ti 5:4 But if a widow has children or grandchildren, let them first learn to show godliness to their own household and to make some return to their parents, for this is pleasing in the sight of God.
1Ti 5:5 She who is truly a widow, left all alone, has set her hope on God and continues in supplications and prayers night and day,
1Ti 5:6 but she who is self-indulgent is dead even while she lives.
1Ti 5:7 Command these things as well, so that they may be without reproach.
1Ti 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
1Ti 5:9 Let a widow be enrolled if she is not less than sixty years of age, having been the wife of one husband,
1Ti 5:10 and having a reputation for good works: if she has brought up children, has shown hospitality, has washed the feet of the saints, has cared for the afflicted, and has devoted herself to every good work.
These Godly women are able to teach children because as the Scriptures show that Timothy was a child of a Jewish woman and whose father was a Gentile (Acts 16:1,3). And Paul shows that Tim's mother and grandmother taught him in their faith as a child.
2Ti 1:5 I am reminded of your sincere faith, a faith that dwelt first in your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice and now, I am sure, dwells in you as well.
2Ti 3:15 and how from childhood you[Timothy] have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
elishabroadway Posted: Its funny as I read this thread and see how hearts are exposesd right off the bat!! Nobody being led by the spirit of God should be calling people who claim Christ unbe;lieves if you believe someone is wrong or decieved you should correct them gently nt by name calling and prideful comments.
ME: I agree sister! I was amazed and marveled at the faithfulness of our Lord Jesus and how He continues to expose the darkness within us. He is truly an amazing God and worthy of all praise. Let those who correct - correct in love and encouraging words with Scripture to show folly.
elishabroadway Posted: I have given up corecting people on their false gospels false doctrins ,doctrins of devils, and their false leaders and hirlings, seems they like being decieved GO FIGURE!! i guess its true what they say, when people reject the truth they will be;live the lie(s) people want to believe the garbage they bel;ieve it does tickle their ears (i think that means they want to hear it and it sounds good to their flesh)
ME: My dear sister, Elisha. We are to correct more than once and not less than three. After that let the Lord deal with them, but we are to love them no less be they in or out of our company. I agree completely with you and it shows how the Lord speaks truth in light of the Lord's will. Let the Lord be magnified to and through His children by Christ's Spirit.
elishabroadway Posted: Here is an example of a crummy responce that tears down and does not eddify ,explain or build up
The Lord would not agree with your unbelief, you have called Jesus a liar and your responce is not one that comes from the holy spirit... You have made the word of truth of no effect!
WHAT DID I JUST SAY??
A WHOLE BUNCH OF NOTHING THAT TOE SOMEONE DOWN AND DIDNT EXPLAIN WHY I THINK THEY ARE WRONG!!!
i completly made it up but its an example of the repplys I have seen on here alot and its mean and edifies nobody teaches nobody ,builds up nobody and does not bring glory to God in anyway in fact it BRINGS REPROACH!!!
if your gonna tear someone down at leas explain and give scriputre that actulky relates to the subject..
thank you in advance for considerat well meaning polite non judgemental responces in the future..
ME: My dear Elisha. This example was worth copying just for the sake of being read again because it needs no other explanation than the one you so eloquently gave!
elishabroadway Posted: if you notcie my apearences get fewer and fewer I dont like being talked to llike I am on here
ME: Sister Elisha. Like I have told my brother George, I will also tell you. We as a body of Christ need each other to FULLY DISPLAY THE MAJESTY OF HIS OVER ABUNDANT RICHES TO EACH OTHER BY EACH OTHER'S GOD GIVEN GIFTS FOR EACH OTHER THROUGH GOD'S SPIRIT TO MAKE US GROW AND MANIFEST GOD'S GLORY TO THE WORLD. I would encourage you to stay regardless of these people who condemn, judge, and belittle the faith and love our Lord Jesus. Stay and magnify His love here through you. People ARE PAYING ATTENTION. The Spirit IS BEING GLORIFIED by your willingness to seek Him and display His truth. Let the stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears resist the Holy Spirit as their father does. I am encouraged and blessed to read of every post you make my sister, whether I respond or not. I am glad to have the honor and luxury to have met a sister like you in Christ and thank my Lord for it because had He not manifested Himself to us, we would not be here for His sake. It is said that if two or three are gathered in His name, then He is within their midst. So with that, my fellow brethren, I say: LET HIS NAME BE MAGNIFIED AND LET US NOT DENY HIM HERE BEING WITH US.
May the Love and mercy of our Lord Jesus be with you all. Amen.
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 19 Feb, 2012 05:12 PM
Thank you my dear brother it is a blessing when I see someone who can recogonize our kinship in christ in spite of our diffedrences... Some dont see the simplicity of what makes us brothers and sisters! our doctrines need not be idenetical just so we recocginze and except the plan of salvation then we should be considering each other as siblings, whether we agree completly or not, it is not our place to say, someone is not saved if they are saying that they are.. Thats the Lords place and the simplicity of it is Jesus work on the cross saves those that are chosen period!
I love you my dear brother I call your name often and I apreciate that you call mine
as always thank you for your encouragment it truly is a blessing
Why is it that Christians here are looking for a Christian partner AND...
Posted : 20 Feb, 2012 06:14 PM
Angel quotes me asking her if her Bible has the beginning to 1 Tim. 2:12 because she seemed to omit it from her example: Does your Bible say that, Angel or is there a portion of a verse missing in it?
A woman is not suppose to LORD over a Man.
Man is to lead.
You need to rightly divide the scriptures You Post. By consulting the Holy Ghost.
Cause you are Wrong...... Just cause you write scriptures
You need to know What they Mean and what context to put them in. Holy Ghost gives that. Not YOU, brother.
ME: Sister, you didn't answer my question. Does your Bible have " I do not permit a woman to teach" in front of the verse you presented in 1 Timothy 2:12? Yes or no?
Does this appear like so?
1Ti 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
Now, you said:
"A woman is not suppose to LORD over a Man."
ME: That is not what the text says. It says pretty plainly that a woman should not teach or exercise authority over men. That means that women cannot teach men in church. There is NO Scripture where it says that a woman should teach anyone other than other women and kids. Do you agree?
Angle: You need to rightly divide the scriptures You Post. By consulting the Holy Ghost. Cause you are Wrong
ME: Funny a woman in this topic agreed with me and I'm sure many other women in Christ would be more apt and agree with the Word of God, dear sister. How is it that only you see it differently?
I will continue to pray for you, Angel. Because you surely need it. May the love and obedience of the Lord Jesus Christ be forever imprinted in your heart enough for you to emulate His act of submission in your life, sister Angel.
