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Admin	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 01:32 AM Video addressing a few of the errors in the WoF movement... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ExN3wZ7Ntc&feature=player_embedded Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 03:54 PM Absolutely not Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 04:00 PM I'm not sure what "absolutely not" is in response to. Are you saying you will "absolutely not" participate in any discussion on the matter? Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 04:36 PM Yes PJ...however that "Kingdom" on earth you are speaking of is not yet come...and your side track off the topic to explaining about the Jews is just that a side track...you voice alot about little and a little about lot...and you didnt like that I corrected you on what the Scriptures you listed are really about...plus...you still didnt answer Ryans question he asked you...and I'm still not a Health and Wealther or a part of the Word of Faith movement nor do I plan on joining or converting to anything other than what GOD has already converted me to through His Son Christ Jesus...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 09:34 PM This is direct opposition to the quote you always give about marking false teachers...You call me out in criticism all the time.. Not at all you do not see me mentioning names of people, nor would you normally see me, expose Calvinism but it is as the word teaches a false doctrine, and there are some on here continually trying to lead any they can from the Gospel. Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 09:35 PM es PJ...however that "Kingdom" on earth you are speaking of is not yet come...and your side track off the topic to explaining about the Jews is just that a side track...you voice alot about little and a little about lot...and you didnt like that I corrected you on what the Scriptures you listed are really about...plus...you still didnt answer Ryans question he asked you...and I'm still not a Health and Wealther or a part of the Word of Faith movement nor do I plan on joining or converting to anything other than what GOD has already converted me to through His Son Christ Jesus...xo If your response is true then you are not saved according to Jesus. Mt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you Mr 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. Lu 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he. Lu 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. And your side track off the topic to explaining about the Jews is just that a side track...you voice alot about little and a little about lot...and you didnt like that I corrected you on what the Scriptures you listed are really about...plus...you still. Jude your response is very disappointing, and your attitude is not really like you. 3 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man�s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. 19 � Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Man is redeemed from The Curse unto The Blessing of Abraham in Christ. The Blessing Ge 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. Ge 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. Gen 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father�s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: Gen 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. From the fall the father was endeavoring to get man back into the Blessing and in the New covenant it is those that are in Christ Jesus. Gen 12:7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him. A promise of the blessing Gen 13:2 And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold. The Blessing working Gen 13:5 And Lot also, which went with Abram, had flocks, and herds, and tents. Gen 13:6 And the land was not able to bear them, that they might dwell together: for their substance was great, so that they could not dwell together. Gen 14:23 That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich: The Blessed one speaking of the blessing said. The bible continually speaks of the blessing and of course it was manifest on the earth. Jesus speaking the Blessing over this offering: Lk 9:16 Then he took the five loaves and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed them, and brake, and gave to the disciples to set before the multitude. 9:17 And they did eat, and were all filled: and there was taken up of fragments that remained to them twelve baskets. Mr 10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. Jesus speaking of The Blessing now in this life and time to come. Notice he said those that walk in the blessing will be persecuted because of it. and I'm still not a Health and Wealther or a part of the Word of Faith movement nor do I plan on joining or converting to anything other than what GOD has already converted me to through His Son Christ Jesus...xo These are seeds of strife sown out of a carnal mind and the works of the flesh. Those that are in Christ whether they no it or not where born into wealth and health, no one ever said you pursue, we are to seek in the kingdom and the blessing overtakes those that are walking in obedience. When they hardened their heart against the Gospel, The Blessing what happened? Hebrews 3:16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses. Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? Hebrews 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? Hebrews 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief. Hebrews 4:1 � Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. Hebrew 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 09:51 PM "Not at all you do not see me mentioning names of people" Are you really trying to make us believe that you don't call people out here? You are backtracking because I caught you in a hypocritical statement. We all know(this includes you) that you call people out here. Does "Donna" ring a bell? Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 10:15 PM "Not at all you do not see me mentioning names of people" That statement is made in reference to the video you posted, if you ever noticed you will see me, exhorting people to never do that, you will give place to the devil every time. Are you really trying to make us believe that you don't call people out here? You are backtracking because I caught you in a hypocritical statement. We all know(this includes you) that you call people out here. Does "Donna" ring a bell? There is a night and day difference from dealing with doctrine and attacking the person. One is life One is death Yes I did answer Ryan's question, the title and the motive are in and of them self mocking God. I could not get the video to play but tell me what he said word for word at the beginning concerning this term Rhema. Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 11:36 PM The fact is, you said you do not mention people's name...and you do. No play on words will change that. Now it comes out that you couldn't even get the video to play and yet you claim it's evil. And no, you never did answer any of my questions. I asked what doctrine of man was being taught that you were against. I submitted that the speaker did indeed use scripture to support his claim, which you deny. I submitted that he used the WOF preachers own video to show their contradictory statements...and you didn't address this. How does the and motive within, mock God? If you had watched, you would have seen the speaker showing how the WOF preachers blur the line between them and God...and the speaker disagrees with this teaching...and instead he teaches that God is all powerful and doesn't need man to give permission for Him to act in this world. Let me ask you something. The guys you are defending have taught that God cannot act in this world without us allowing Him to. Do you really believe this? If you are going to make claims that I am mocking God, then please show us how...because nobody is seeing it so far but you. Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 1 May, 2012 11:53 PM Quit putting words in mouth, humble yourself and go back and read what I said, if you do not understand ask. Post Reply
View Profile History	Word of faith movement Posted : 2 May, 2012 12:01 AM I've asked several things and you very rarely answer anything. You certainly haven't addressed the questions that have been brought up in this thread. You said you do not mention names and that is a lie. I've read and re-read your post a few times to make sure I had it right...and I did. The fact is, you do mention names. You know this however and are trying to divert attention so you don't have to address any of the other issues I brought up. Post Reply

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