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Does the unbelief of Some:
Posted : 30 May, 2012 02:50 PM

Romans 3:11 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?



Answer: no

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 12:24 AM

No sorry...it doesn't work that way. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion.

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 06:46 AM

No sorry...it doesn't work that way. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion.



It is not hard you take Jesus at his word and that is exactly how it works, only believe.

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 09:05 AM

This wasn't a response to you PJ...Sorry that you were confused again. I really make not attempts to confuse you. It just happens. Have a good day PJ :)

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 09:12 AM

HOH

This wasn't a response to you PJ...Sorry that you were confused again. I really make not attempts to confuse you. It just happens. Have a good day PJ :)







Ok then I say it! :laugh:















It is not hard you take Jesus at his word and that is exactly how it works, only believe.

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 09:19 AM

Saying it doesn't make it so...

As I have said several times, you misunderstand Calvinism. Clearly Olson's book did not help you in that area.

I never said and Calvinism doesn't teach that we are not predestined because we are not born believers. Have you ever heard of Paul?

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 09:55 AM

Yes of course I have and you need to read with the spirit what he said in romans ch seven, but you must approach the word of god by faith not by Calvinism.



For Calvinism teaches that man is Spiritual dead and Jesus teaches that man a spirit being is alive, but subject to the law of sin and death until he is born again.



The father does not create any thing in death only life for he is life.



There is no death in him



The death is all of Satan. The God of This world.

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 10:00 AM

"Yes of course I have and you need to read with the spirit what he said in romans ch seven, but you must approach the word of god by faith not by Calvinism."

I wasn't asking you, but her. Second...I used to believe like you. I came to reformed theology through the scriptures. I wasn't at reformed theology and then went to the scriptures, so your theory falls on it's face.



"For Calvinism teaches that man is Spiritual dead and Jesus teaches that man a spirit being is alive, but subject to the law of sin and death until he is born again."

Jesus said no man can come to Him unless it's granted him by the father...sorry PJ but you are out of your area on this issue.



"The father does not create any thing in death only life for he is life.

There is no death in him

The death is all of Satan. The God of This world."

And this is what I'd like to call a "PJ QUOTE". It has nothing to do with the topic...which is what we are used to seeing from you. Maybe a good nap to help you have a good day is in order PJ :)

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 01:00 PM

PJ-



Lets go take a nap cause I need one too!:zzzz: We can let Holding talk all he wants to himself about Calvinism. :winksmile:

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 01:59 PM

Kindhearted...you do not know the history here. PJ consistently trolls, post things unrelated to the topic, and most often...twists what I say and claims I say something else. He then tries to refute that new saying. That's sort of what we call a straw man. That's why he gets the types of responses he gets from me now.



As for talking about Calvinism to myself...it's only a discussion because certain people have criticized my belief. I have a right to defend it and my points have gone without being refuted.

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Posted : 31 May, 2012 05:20 PM

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Yes its only a discussion and we all as Christians have to remember that the enemy likes to get us against each other. I don't agree with any group taking things from the Bible and giving it their own meaning to say they are a part of a group. The chosen group.We are all Gods Children.

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