Yea I have said I wouldn't respond and I have also said I've felt bad for you and would continue to try to help you see the light. It's an ongoing struggle with me(I've made Jude aware of this). You've even been hateful to Jude...simply because you cannot see past one debate. You even resort to the pathetic "tactic" of saying all Calvinists use the word "hypocrite"...just so you can add the word "Calvinist" to your post. It's really sad that you are this immature and in your 60's. EVERYONE uses the word "hypocrite". Are you this naive? I know your theology teaches that we are all gods, but I have news for you....Disagreeing with you(you being nothing but a man) does not mean one is disagreeing with Jesus. I get sick and tired of you claiming to be on the level of Jesus. God is God and you are not. You want to talk about heresy and false doctrines....Claiming you are God is about as false as it gets. God is not pretty much the same as us, but just a little better. He is nothing like us at all. He is altogether Holy and YOU DO NOT COMPARE TO HIM. YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR HIM. Stop hating everyone on the board...unless you want us to see by your fruit that you are not of God at all. Ask yourself why you are even on this board. Ask yourself what benefit you bring to the board. Grow up PJ...
False teachers are men-pleasers (Gal. 1:10; 1 Thess. 2:1-4). They preach more to please the ear than to profit the heart: "Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophecy no unto us right things: speak to us smooth things; prophecy deceits"' (Isa. 30:10). "A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means, and my people love to have it so. And what will you do in the end thereof?" (Jer. 5:30,31). They handle holy things rather with wit and dalliance (playful come-on) then with fear and reverence. False teachers are soul-undoers. They are like evil chirurgeons, that skin over the wound, but never heal it. Flattery undid Ahab and Herod, Nero and Alexander. False teachers are hell's greatest enrichers. Non acerba, sed blanda, Not bitter, but flattering words do all the mischief, said Valerian, the Roman emperor. Such smooth teachers are sweet soul-poisoners (Jer. 23:16,17).
THE SECOND CHARACTER
False teachers are notable in casting dirt, scorn, and reproach upon the persons, names, and credits of Christ's most faithful ambassadors. Thus Korah, Dathan, and Abiram charged Moses and Aaron that they took too much upon them, seeing all the congregation was holy (Num. 16:3). You take too much state, too much power, too much honour, too much holiness upon you; for what are you more than others, that you take so much upon you? And so Ahab's false prophets fell foul on good Micaiah, paying of him with blows for want of better reasons (1 Kings 22:10-26). Yea, Paul, that great apostle of the Gentiles, had his ministry undermined and his reputation blasted by false teachers: "For his letters"' say they, "are weighty and powerful, but his bodily presence is weak and contemptible" (2 Cor. 10:10). They rather contemn him than admire him; they look upon him as a dunce rather than a doctor. And the same hard measure had our Lord Jesus from the Scribes and Pharisees, who laboured as for life to build their own credit upon the ruins of his reputation. And never did the devil drive a more full trade this way than he does in these days (Matt. 27:63). Oh! the dirt, the filth, the scorn that is thrown upon those whom the world is not worthy. I suppose false teachers mind not that saying of Austin, Quisquis volens detrahit famae, nolens addit mercedi meae, He that willingly takes from my good name, unwillingly adds to my reward.
THE THIRD CHARACTER
False teachers are venters of the devices and visions of their own heads and hearts. "Then the Lord said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent then not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophecy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart (Jer. 14:14); "Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Harken not unto the words of the prophets that prophecy unto you; they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord" (Jer. 23:16). Are there not multitudes in this nation whose visions are but golden delusions, lying vanities, brain-sick phantasies? These are Satan's great benefactors, and such as divine justice will hang up in hell as the greatest malefactors, if the physician of souls does not prevent it.
THE FOURTH CHARACTER
False teachers easily pass over the great and weighty things both of law and gospel, and stand most upon those things that are of the least moment and concernment to the souls of men. "Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned; from which some have swerved, have turned aside unto vain jangling, desiring to be teachers of the law, and understand neither what they say nor whereof they affirm" (1 Tim. 1:5-7). "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint, and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith; these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone" (Matt. 23:2,3). False teachers are nice in the lesser things of the law, and as negligent in the greater. "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strife of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, perverse disputings of men corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself" (1 Tim. 6:3-5). If such teachers are not hypocrites in grain, I know nothing, Romans 2:22. The earth groans to bear them, and hell is fitted for them, Matt. 24:32.
THE FIFTH CHARACTER
False teachers cover and color their dangerous principles and soul-impostures with very fair speeches and plausible pretenses, with high notions and golden expressions. Many in these days are bewitched and deceived, viz. illumination, revelation, deification, fiery triplicity, &c. As strumpets paint their faces, and deck and perfume their beds, the better to allure and deceive simple souls (Gal. 6:12; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rom. 16:17,18; Mat. 16:6,11,12; 7:15), so false teachers will put a great deal of paint and garnish upon their most dangerous principles and blasphemies, that they may the better deceive and delude poor ignorant souls. They know sugared poison goes down sweetly; they wrap up their pernicious, soul-killing pills in gold.
THE SIXTH CHARACTER
False teachers strive more to win over men to their opinions, than to better them in their conversations. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves" (Matt. 24:17). They busy themselves most about men's heads. Their work is not to better men's hearts, and mend their lives; and in this they are very much like their father the devil, who will spare no pains to gain proselytes.
THE SEVENTH CHARACTER
False teachers make merchandise of their followers. "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not" (2 Peter 2:1-3). They eye your goods more than your good; and mind more the serving of themselves, than the saving of your souls. So they may have your substance, they care not though Satan has your souls (Rev. 18:11-13). That they may the better pick your purse, they will hold forth such principles as are very indulgent to the flesh. False teachers are the great worshippers of the golden calf (Jer. 6:13).
Now, by these characters you may know them, and so shun them, and deliver your souls out of their dangerous snares; which that you may, my prayers shall meet-yours at the throne of grace.
by Thomas Brooks (1608-1680)
interesting fact is most of these points describe you pj.
You need to lose your presuppositions, get on your knees and cry out to God for mercy.
This is an example of hatred plain and simple and an example of the persecution Jesus spoke of that would come in following him and an example of why he said to not hear another doctrine other than his.
In your response is unforgiveness, strife, hatred, lying, bearing false witness, yes my heart grieves for you, but the love will not stop, you can turn it is your choice, and it would be will for you to not include jude in your justification of the action's, for you add her to your quilt.
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Yea I have said I wouldn't respond and I have also said I've felt bad for you and would continue to try to help you see the light. It's an ongoing struggle with me(I've made Jude aware of this). You've even been hateful to Jude...simply because you cannot see past one debate. You even resort to the pathetic "tactic" of saying all Calvinists use the word "hypocrite"...just so you can add the word "Calvinist" to your post. It's really sad that you are this immature and in your 60's. EVERYONE uses the word "hypocrite". Are you this naive? I know your theology teaches that we are all gods, but I have news for you....Disagreeing with you(you being nothing but a man) does not mean one is disagreeing with Jesus. I get sick and tired of you claiming to be on the level of Jesus. God is God and you are not. You want to talk about heresy and false doctrines....Claiming you are God is about as false as it gets. God is not pretty much the same as us, but just a little better. He is nothing like us at all. He is altogether Holy and YOU DO NOT COMPARE TO HIM. YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR HIM. Stop hating everyone on the board...unless you want us to see by your fruit that you are not of God at all. Ask yourself why you are even on this board. Ask yourself what benefit you bring to the board. Grow up PJ...
