Author	Thread: Context
Admin	Context Posted : 3 Aug, 2012 08:15 AM The continual excuse of some in the reference to context,to avoid the truth has no foundation and is sinking sand. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Context Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 06:36 PM Psalms 145:17 The Lord is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works. 18 The Lord is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth. 19 He will fulfil the desire of them that fear him: he also will hear their cry, and will save them. **** He will hear their cry and save them...thankfully, He heard my cry and saved me. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Context Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 06:45 PM What is context? 1. The parts of a piece of writing, speech, etc., that precede and follow a word or passage and contribute to its full meaning it is unfair to quote out of context 2. the conditions and circumstances that are relevant to an event, fact, etc. Since John 3:16 is recorded as part of a conversation Jesus conducted, the verses surrounding it put it into context. Only those who want to bring confusion to the Word of God would try to turn the words of the verse into something they are not. Post Reply
View Profile History	Context Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 08:47 PM You tried hard and still couldn't explain away the verse in it's context. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Context Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 09:19 PM And all you could do was post a lengthy narrative written by someone else...you have yet to explain what your interpretation of the word World is in John 3:16. You appear to hold yourself as one with higher knowledge. Post Reply
View Profile History	Context Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 09:27 PM Do you deny the concept of "higher knowledge"? Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Context Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 09:39 PM I deny that you have displayed higher knowledge. I know many people who have studied and apply their knowledge to further the Gospel. I know many who have studied less and apply a higher understanding of the Word of God than many on this site who claim to be knowledgeable. I'm thankful God gave me the ability to discern the truth in what men and women write. Post Reply
View Profile History	Context Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 09:44 PM "many on this site who claim to be knowledgeable." Where are those claims? Show them and prove them. Post Reply
View Profile History	Context Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 10:04 PM Here is Teach in her own words suggesting that higher knowledge and understanding of the Bible does not exist. She does this to suit her argument at the time. ""PJ, unfortunately as you have stated on other threads, it doesn't matter how straight forward the truth is presented...or how obvious the words are in the verse, there will be people here that think they present a higher, deeper knowledge of the basic language of the Bible" She goes so far as to start a new thread to develop this idea further. Here are her own words: "Many posts on a variety of threads indicate that we need to read more into words in the Bible...that words like 'all', "every", "world", etc have deeper meanings than what even English majors or Hebrew/Greek experts understand the words to mean. Do you believe the Word of God requires a 'higher level of knowledge' to understand it? But now she changes her tune and adapts the idea of higher knowledge and understanding to suit her argument. Here are her own words: " "I know many who have studied less and apply a higher understanding of the Word of God" Difficult to know which Teach_ib is going to show up at any given time making intelligent debate with her virtually impossible. Post Reply
View Profile History	Context Posted : 5 Aug, 2012 10:40 PM Hey look Teach, I think I found one of those claims that you mentioned: Teach said: "I'm thankful God gave me the ability to discern the truth in what men and women write." Discernment -the quality of being able to grasp and comprehend what is obscure. So, you yourself have been given higher understanding? Is that right? :laugh: citation: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discernment Post Reply
View Profile History	Context Posted : 6 Aug, 2012 01:52 AM "And all you could do was post a lengthy narrative written by someone else...you have yet to explain what your interpretation of the word World is in John 3:16. You appear to hold yourself as one with higher knowledge." Yes clearly that's all I could do. I've only thoroughly refuted you in several threads dealing with multiple scriptures. That "all you could do" that you picked was not even done in this thread. Nice try. Furthermore it's a lie...I told you that I believe it is speaking of fallen, depraved humanity. You then replied that you and I have the same belief. I then told you NOOOOO because you believe it says "For God so loved every single person" and I believe it's speaking of fallen humanity as a system. In other words, this is how I interpret John 3:16. God loved the fallen humanity in this way....He gave his only Son, so that every believing one would have eternal life. You interpret it to mean, For God SOOOOOOO loved every single person, that he sent His Son, so that every single person is capable of believing in Him unto eternal life. One may sound a little more cute and pleasing to people such as yourself but has nothing to do with truth. World is speaking of fallen humanity as a system. There are numerous examples of this in John's writings. Or have you only read John 3:16? These weak, already refuted arguments are getting old. Set a higher standard for yourself. I've tried to be patient, but it seems you disagree just to disagree. In the face of loads and loads of scripture put before you, you simply ignore the points you cannot refute instead of letting them challenge you to find truth. Stop with the double standards. Stop with the whatever arguments works at the time mindset because it has led us to point out your hypocrisy. First you argue against context. Then you argue for it(still having no understanding of context I might add). First you say there is no higher knowledge. Then you say that there is but those who argue against you on this forum can't possess it. Post Reply

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