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We are all waiting for the New Heavens the New Earth and the Eternal New Jerusalem!
Posted : 14 Aug, 2013 07:14 AM
WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW HEAVENS, THE NEW EARTH AND THE ETERNAL NEW JERUSALEM!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the New Jersalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He was was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true!"
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding Ludlow the Preterists and the RC church} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.
Hebrews 11:13-16: All these people :Abraham, Sarah Isaac, Jacob, Noah etc} were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a BETTER COUNTRY--a HEAVENLY ONE. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a *CITY* (The NEW JERUSALEM} for them!!
Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angelto give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like the RC church} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {Thew New Jerusalem}, which are described in this Book.!!"
The New Jerusaem is described in Revelation 21:9 to Revelation 22:5. The New Jerusalem will be 12,000 stadia {which is about 1377 miles} long, high and wide as per Revelation 21:16. A stadia is 606 feet long which is the exact same length as the Greek stadiums. 606 feet times 12,000 equals 7,272,000 feet which is about 1377 miles.
Galatians 4:25,26: Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the JERUSALEM THAT IS ABOVE is free, and She is our mother!
We are all waiting for the New Heavens the New Earth and the Eternal New Jerusalem!
Posted : 18 Aug, 2013 10:26 AM
2 days before his crucifixion Jesus gave the famous Mount of Olives sermon prophecies on April 1 AD 33. The prophecies in this sermon are recorded in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21:5-37.
In Matthew 24;1,2, Mark 13;1,2 and Luke 21:5,6 Jesus prophesies that the present Jewish Temple will be completely destroyed.
Then in Matthew 24:3 the discipleas asked Jesus {*2*} questions {*1*} "When will this happen? {Or when will the Jewish Temple be destroyed} and {*2*} "What will be the sign of your Coming and the End of the Age?"
Jesus answered question number {*1*} in Matthew 24:34; Mark 13:30 and Luke 21:32 where Jesus said "This generation {April AD 33 to October AD 70} will not pass away untill all these things have happened." "All these things that happened"
Then in September to October AD 70 concerning the destruction of the Temple and events just before this took place; are recorded **ONLY** in Luke 21:20-24: Jesus prophesied, "When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the country not enter the city {It took the Roman army about 6 days to completely encircle Jerusalem} For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.... There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. They will fall by the sword and will taken as prisoners to all the nations, Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled." The times of the Gentiles ended on June 7th 1967 when the Jews took complete control of Jerusalem after 1897 years of Gentile rule.
All of the other prophecies in the Olivet Sermon of Jesus have obviously nothing to do with the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 and only refers to the Tribulation during the 1260-day Great Tribulation immediately before the 2nd Coming of Jesus and events that will take place on the Last Day at the 2nd Coming of Jesus such as Matthew 24:9-14, Matthew 24:29-31 and Matthew 25:31-46:
Matthew 24:3,9-13: The disciples asked Jesus, �What will be the sign of your Coming and the *END OF THE AGE*?? Jesus answered�.. {During the 1260-day Great Tribulation} �Then *YOU* will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and *YOU will be hated by all nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the Faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of *MOST* will grow cold,{THE GREAT APOSTASY} but he {The Called, Chosen & Faithful-Rev 17:14b} who stands firm to the *END will be saved. This gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to *ALL NATIONS* {This did not occur in AD 70!}, and then the *END will come!�
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, �All authority in heaven and on *EARTH has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!�
THE HARVEST IS THE END OF THE AGE!
Matthew 13:39-43: Jesus says, �The Harvest is the *END OF THE AGE and the harvesters are *ANGELS*. As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the *END OF THE AGE*. The Son of Man will send out His *ANGELS*, and they will weed out of His kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. *THEN the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father!�
I Corinthians 15:22-24: �For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ the firstfruits, then when He comes, those who belong to Him. Then the **END** will come, when He hands over the Kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.� And so when Jesus comes again at the *END OF THE AGE* He will hand over the Kingdom to God the Father!
Mark 13:10 Jesus says, �The *AGE TO COME* is Eternal Life!�I Timothy 6:19: In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the *COMING AGE*, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life!� :angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel:
We are all waiting for the New Heavens the New Earth and the Eternal New Jerusalem!
Posted : 18 Aug, 2013 10:50 AM
Events in the Olivet Prophecies which obviously did not take place in AD 70!!
Matthew 24:29-31: Jesus says, �Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.� {Luke 21:28 adds �When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.�} Then the nations will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud {7TH & LAST} *TRUMPET* CALL and they will gather *His elect* from the 4 winds {Mark 13:27b adds:} �from the ends of the earth {Saints on earth} to the ends of the Heavens {Saints in Heaven}!!� JESUS WILL COME AGAIN WHEN THE *7TH* ANGEL SOUNDS THE LOUD *7TH* AND *LAST* TRUMPET CALL OF GOD. Rev 11:15a, 18: �The *7TH* angel sounded his trumpet� and the time has come for judging the dead and for rewarding your servants the prophets and saints.� {See Rev 22:12; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Matt 25:31-46 & Rev 20:11-15}
Matt 25:31-34,41: Jesus says, �*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory,{On the Last Day} and all the angels with Him {See Matt 24:29-31}, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another��He will put His sheep on His right and the goats on the left. *THEN the King {Jesus} will say to those on His right, �Come you who are blessed by My Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... *THEN He will say to those on His left, �Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire!�:angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel:
We are all waiting for the New Heavens the New Earth and the Eternal New Jerusalem!
Posted : 18 Aug, 2013 10:52 AM
The phrase "World without end" is not in God's Word.
Matthew 4:8-10 The devil took Jesus to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. "All this I will give you." he said "if you fall down and worship me."
I John 5:19: We know that we are the children of God, an that the whole world is under the control of the evil one."
John 18:36: Jesus says, "My Kingdom is NOT OF THIS WORLD. If it were My servants would fight."
Hebrews 11:13- "All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised, they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. And they admitted they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of they country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a better country *A HEAVENLY ONE*. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a City for them. {The New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth!}
The Satanic Roman Catholic Preterists believe that everything in Matthew 24 and 25 and in Revelation already took place in AD 70 which is of course completely ridiculous. The Roman Catholic Preterists believe that the Satanic Popes will usher in Peace on the earth and the Roman Catholics will then rule the world in the present evil earth which will last for ever and ever???
And as usual the sacred Word of God completely contradicts this Satanic belief:
2 Peter 3:3,4,8-13: In the Last Days scoffers will come...They will say, :Where is this coming He {Jesus} promised?"....But do not forget this one thing dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a 1,000 years, and a 1,000 years are like a day!!!!!!! The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise. as some {Preterists} understand slowness....But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be burned up.....That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise we {All true Christians} are looking forward to a New Heaven and a New Earth, the home of righteousness."
Revelation 21:1-4: Then I saw a New Heaven and a New Earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the Throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making EVERYTHING NEW!!" :angel::angel::angel::angel:
We are all waiting for the New Heavens the New Earth and the Eternal New Jerusalem!
Posted : 18 Aug, 2013 12:58 PM
DOES A JEWISH TEMPLE WITH BIBLICAL SPECIFICATIONS HAVE TO BE REBUILT??
������� Some End-Time Groups who wrongly interpret Daniel 9:27a, and who believe in a 7-year Tribulation, {Starting with a New Jewish Temple} are now spreading false rumors that religious Jews are now building a Temple or are planning to tear down the Muslim Dome of the Rock in order to rebuild a Jewish Temple to Biblical specifications and will then REINSTITUTE animal sacrifices??? However there are several big problems with this scenario: All 21 Arab Muslim nations including Pakistan which has many nuclear bombs would then immediately declare an all-out Holy War on Israel, and the Israeli government fully understands this. I know this for I was a missionary in Israel.� A Jewish Temple built to Biblical specifications would then take at least 7 years to build during this continuous war with the 21 Muslim nations. Most of these same End-Time Groups also teach that a pre-trib rapture could occur TODAY {Not at least 7 years from today} which of course makes the ridiculous *IMMINENT* pre-trib belief {That Jesus could come TODAY} a big joke.
Now all those who believe in a 7-year Tribulation only because of the wrong interpretation of Daniel 9:27a also believe that immediately following a CONCEALED pre-trib rapture of the Church saints that the Anti-Christ will make a Covenant with Israel; allowing the Jews to make animal sacrifices in a Jewish Temple built to Biblical specifications. They believe that at the end of 3 1/2 years in the middle of the 7 years the antichrist will put an end to all animal sacrifices in this Jewish Temple. However, for over 1,000 years religious Jews have believed that when their Messiah comes He will bring with him the New Jewish Temple and the required Ark of the Covenant. And then the Messiah will re-establish the Levitical priesthood; who will then offer animal sacrifices according to OT Law.
For according to OT Law {See Numbers 3:5-10} all Jewish Priests must prove that they are direct descendants of Levi and these Levitical genealogies were completely destroyed when the last Jewish Temple was destroyed in AD 70. Therefore, no Scriptural OT animal sacrifices could possibly occur before then; since no Jew can now prove that he is a Levite!! And so if you are waiting for this Jewish Temple to be built to Biblical specifications by Jews who will then offer animal sacrifices; you are going to have to wait until this bogus Jewish messiah comes.� Please do not hold your breath until this time!
������ Did Herod the Great completely destroy the 2nd Temple including its foundations around 17 BC?? The following is a quote from "Antiquities of the Jews" by Josephus, Page 334, Para 1 & 3:� "And now Herod, in the 18th year of his reign undertook a very great work, that is, to build of himself the temple of God and make it LARGER in compass, and to raise it to a most significant altitude, as esteeming it to be the most glorious of all his actions and this would be sufficient for an everlasting memorial to him....so Herod TOOK AWAY THE OLD FOUNDATIONS AND LAID OTHERS, and erected the temple upon them. Herod's 3rd Temple was 100 cubits {150 feet} long." {The first two Jewish temples were both 60 cubits {90 feet} long as per 2 Chronicles 3:3 & Ezra 6:3.}� So then Herod's Temple was the 3RD TEMPLE which according to John 2:20 took "46 years to build".�
There are some who believe that a {4th} Jewish Temple built to Biblical specifications will appear during the End-Times and is suggested in Revelation 11:1.� The TEMPLE IN HEAVEN is mentioned 12 times in Revelation where worshipers are present: Rev 3:12;7:15;11:19(2X);14:15,17;15:5,6,8(2x); & Rev 16:1,17. The only other time that a temple is mentioned is in Rev 11:1; where worshipers are present; so this could also be a reference to the TEMPLE IN HEAVEN. Let us compare Rev 11:1 with Rev 7:15 and Rev 8:3-5:� Revelation 11:1: I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, "Go and measure the TEMPLE OF GOD and the ALTAR, and count the worshipers there." Rev 7:15:"They {martyrs as per Rev 7:9-14} are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in HIS TEMPLE." Rev 8:3-5: Another angel, who had a golden censor, came and stood at the ALTAR. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden ALTAR before the throne. The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel's hand.�
Ephesians 2:19b-22:� "You are members of God's household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Jesus Christ Himself as the Chief Cornerstone {Of the 4th and LAST TEMPLE}.� In Him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a HOLY TEMPLE in the Lord.� And in Him you too are being built {Living Stones-1 Pet 2:5} together to become a dwelling in which God lives by His Spirit.�
2 Cor 6:16 "For *WE are the TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD!"{See Revelation 11:1 above!!} Acts 17:24: The God who made the world and everything in it ...does not live in temples built by hands. The �outer court� of the TEMPLE OF GOD in Rev 11:2 would be the saints on earth who are also the TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD.
We are all waiting for the New Heavens the New Earth and the Eternal New Jerusalem!
Posted : 18 Aug, 2013 04:25 PM
OK...that was really weird....lets try it again...
Ummm...IWA...just so you know...my name is not "sweety"...it is Jude...Please address me by my name...
Sweetie - We are the temple. (Christ and His body) We are not waiting on a literal temple to be rebuilt somewhere in the Middle East.
*** Why is it so difficult to get a straight answer...I asked a question and it gets ignored and then I am told something completely different...
*** I understand we are the Temple as Christ lives in us�however�You are a Preterist are you not ???...
Pret�er`ist
1. One whose chief interest is in the past; one who regards the past with most pleasure or favor.
2. (Theol.) One who believes the prophecies of the Apocalypse to have been already fulfilled.
Please forgive me if I have it wrong of you�I ask because I am a Literalist�and believe in the Millennium�that�s Future with Christ�here on Earth�the Saints that survive...
lit�er�al�ism
1. Adherence to the explicit sense of a given text or doctrine.
2. Literal portrayal; realism.
mil�len�ni�a
1. A span of one thousand years.
2. A thousand-year period of holiness mentioned in Revelation 20, during which Jesus and his faithful followers are to rule on earth.
3. A hoped-for period of joy, serenity, prosperity, and justice.
4. A thousandth anniversary.
2nd half of statement ~ We are not waiting on a literal temple to be rebuilt somewhere in the Middle East.
*** I�m not waiting for that either�Its already been built�it sits exactly where it is�the Dome of the Rock�.It�s a Obama-Nation sitting very close to Desolation�.The Sacred Temple pieces are All ready�it�s a matter of lucifers timing�however�he has forgotten he has little time left�.ALL will come to pass when there is NO MORE TIME�
Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
We are all waiting for the New Heavens the New Earth and the Eternal New Jerusalem!
Posted : 18 Aug, 2013 05:42 PM
IS THE 1,000 YEAR FIRST RESURRECTION IN REVELATION 20:4-6 FOR THE 24 ELDERS ON THRONES AND MARTYRS ONLY??
Jesus promised to 12 Apostles who followed Him {Including Paul?} that they would be given 12 THRONES and the authority to JUDGE in Matthew 19:28 & Luke 22:30. In Revelation 4:4 Before the beginning of the Great Tribulation John saw exactly 24 thrones surrounding God's Throne in Heaven. The other 12 thrones were most likely given to 12 prominent OT Elders such as Abraham, Joseph and Isaiah. One of these 24 Elders speaks in Rev 7:13-17 and after the 7TH angel sounds the 7TH and Last Trumpet in Rev 11:15 ONLY the 24 Elders state in Rev 11:16-18: �The time has come for JUDGING the dead and for rewarding your saints.�
� �It is completely obvious that the 1,000 year reign mentioned in Revelation 20:4-6 is for 24 ELDERS on Thrones and MARTYRS ONLY according to God's Word in Revelation 20:4,5b,6a: "I saw Thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to JUDGE and I saw the SOULS of those who had been beheaded {Or martyred} because of their testimony for Jesus {NT MARTYRS} and because of the Word of God {OT MARTYRS}. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands {**TRIBULATION MARTYRS**}. THEY {THE 24 ELDERS & MARTYRS} came to life and reigned with Christ for 1,000 years... This is the FIRST RESURRECTION... Blessed and holy are those who have part in the FIRST RESURRECTION.' {Which includes THE TRIBULATION MARTYRS!!}
And so the First Resurrection **INCLUDES** the *TRIBULATION MARTYRS*. IF the First Resurrection is a rapture **BEFORE** the Tribulation it certainly can not **INCLUDE** the *TRIBULATION MARTYRS*!!!!
The pre-tribbers believe there will be 2 Resurrections. They believe the First Resurrection is for church saints only and will last just 1 day just **BEFORE** the beginning of the Great Tribulation. They also believe that the Second Resurrection is for OT saints and Tribulation saints and will take place on the Last Day of the Great Tribulation. However, this is impossible since God's Word clearly states the the Tribulation saints will be included in the 1,000 year First Resurrection!!
Rev 20:5a: �The rest of the dead {Those saints who are not martyrs or the 24 Elders on Thrones} did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ENDED.� Which, of course, would be the SECOND RESURRECTION at the 2nd Coming of Jesus. There are only TWO RESURRECTIONS for all saints mentioned in Rev 20:4-6: The FIRST RESURRECTION is for MARTYRS AND THE 24 ELDERS ONLY and INCLUDES the Tribulation Martyrs. And therefore the SECOND RESURRECTION must come on the Last Day of the Great Tribulation and must include ALL SAINTS {Both OT & NT} who are not martyrs or the 24 Elders on thrones.
The Heavenly rewards for the faithful and courageous *MARTYRS* is one of the most important central themes in the book of Revelation. For they will reign with Jesus in Heaven during the 1,000 years before His 2nd Coming; and according to Revelation 7:14-17: They are before the Throne of God and God will spread His tent over them. They will receive White Robes washed in the blood of the Lamb. Never again will they hunger or thirst and God Himself will wipe every tear from their eyes. Jesus will be their Shepherd and will lead them to springs of Living Water.
FOR EXAMPLE: Let us suppose that the SECOND RESURRECTION takes place on September 16th, 2016; then the continuous 1,000 year FIRST RESURRECTION for MARTYRS AND 24 ELDERS ONLY would take place from Sepember 16th, AD 1016 to September 16th, 2016. The 24 Elders and all of the OT & NT saints martyred before September 16th, 1016 were awakened to reign with Jesus in Heaven and every Martyr martyred after September 16th, 1016 were and will be immediately awakened to reign with Jesus in the continuous 1,000 year FIRST RESURRECTION to be completed on September 16th, 2016 at the SECOND RESURRECTION when "The rest of the dead come to life when the thousand years are ENDED." {Rev 20:5a} Rev 20:4b �I saw the *SOULS of those who had been martyred because of their testimony for Jesus... they came to life and reigned with Christ for 1,000 years. The Martyrs SOULS will only get their New Heavenly bodies when the 1,000 years are ENDED at the 2nd Coming of Jesus.
This seems to contradict John 6:40: Jesus says, �EVERYONE who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life and I will raise him up at the LAST DAY.� However, the LAST DAY RESURRECTION could last 1,000 years for in 2 Pet 3:8 we read: �With the Lord a DAY is like 1,000 years, and 1,000 years are like a DAY!!
WHEN WAS SATAN STOPPED FROM DECEIVING THE NATIONS SO THAT THE GOSPEL COULD BE PREACHED TO EVERY NATION IN THE WORLD AS PER MATTHEW 24:14 AND REVELATION..7:9??�
������ FOR EXAMPLE: Let us assume that the Great Tribulation will last 1260 days from April 5th, 2013 to September 16th, 2016.� As you know Satan was successful in stopping the Gospel from spreading past 5% of the earth; or southern Europe and Northern Africa for almost 1000 years. Suddenly the Gospel was being preached throughout the pagan kingdoms of Russia, Finland, Denmark, Norway and Sweden around AD 1013.� And in the past 1000 years the Gospel has spread to all of Africa and Asia, North and South America, and all the remote islands of the earth.� As you know the gospel must be preached to every nation of the earth before the end can come as per Matthew 24:14 and Revelation 7:9.�
And so about 95% of the world�s nations have heard the gospel for the first time during the past 1,000 years. ������ Rev 20:2,3: �He {The angel} seized the dragon, who is the devil or Satan and bound him for 1,000 years {FOR EXAMPLE: April 5th, AD 1013 to April 5th, 2013}.� He threw him into the Abyss to keep him from deceiving the nations until the 1,000 years were ended {On April 5th, 2013}.� After that he must be set free for a short time.� Or 1260 days from April 5th, 2013 to September 16th, 2016 during the Great Tribulation when Satan will again deceive ALL the nations for 1260 days until the Last Day.�
�� Rev 3:1,3: Jesus says, �To the angel of the {*CHURCH*} in Sardis write�But *IF you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.�� 1 Thess 1:1, 5:4: �To the {*CHURCH*} of the Thessalonians�But you brothers {*CHURCH SAINTS*}, are not in darkness so that *THIS DAY*{Just Mentioned In I Thess 4:16,17} should surprise you like a thief.� You are all sons of the light and sons of the DAY.�� And so once the 1260-day Tribulation begins all of God�s {*CHURCH*} saints will know the exact day that the Tribulation will end at the Second Coming of their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the *LAST DAY*.� And so the resurrection day of I Thess 4:16 to I Thess 5:4 will not be a surprise to the saints resurrected in I Thess 4:16,17 just as the resurrection day at the end of the 1260-day Great Tribulation will not be a surprise to *ALL* of God�s saints which proves that the resurrection day mentioned in I Thess 4:16,17 will also come� on the LAST DAY of the Great Tribulation!!!
����� Also in the context of I Thess 4:16 to I Thess 5:4 is this interesting statement in I Thess 5:2,3:� �You know very well that the day of the Lord {Just mentioned in I Thess 4:16} will come like a thief in the night. {to unbelievers}� While people are saying �peace and safety,� DESTRUCTION WILL COME ON THEM SUDDENLY� AND THEY WILL NOT ESCAPE!!� {See 2 Thess 1:6-10 and Matthew 25 :31-33,41-46}� After 6 of the last 7 bowl plagues of the Great Tribulation Jesus will make this statement in Rev 16:15: �Behold, I come like a thief!�{See 2 Pet 3:7,10 & Rev 3:3!!} Christ Himself says that He is coming like a thief at the end of the tribulation just before the battle of Armageddon!!
This destruction of the lost in hell will occur on the LAST DAY of the Great Tribulation as shown above in Matt 25:31-33:41-46: John 5:28,29; 12:48; Daniel 12:1,2,7b & 2 Thess 1:6-10, which firmly places the resurrection mentioned in I Thess 4:16 to I Thess 5:4 on the Last day of the Great Tribulation and not a *CONCEALED* pre-trib rapture 1260 days or 7 years BEFORE the LAST DAY of the Great Tribulation!! :angel::angel::angel::angel:�
