Author	Thread: Huckleberry -- This one is for you!
Admin	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 14 Sep, 2013 12:07 AM You asked: "My question is, was her it her own humble persistence and faith that allowed Jesus to heal this woman's daughter or was grace given first to allow this woman to know who Jesus really was that she may ask this blessing from him?" Please ignore the other member who spoke in error and said:"It is Faith Then Grace, that is how the kingdom of God operates on the earth." Grace precedes faith -- this is the order. (2Tim 1:9 [KJB:PCE]) Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began. When was grace given to the Elect? Before the world began. Why did he give grace to his Elect? For his own purpose. This happens in eternity before time. (Rom 10:17 [KJB:PCE]) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. When does faith come to the Elect? When they hear (understand) the Word of God. This happens in time (history) (Rom 5:2 [KJB:PCE]) By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Read it -- We (the elect) have access into this grace (the grace given to us in eternity) by faith (which is the appointed means in time) (Eph 2:8 [KJB:PCE]) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Read it -- We (the elect) are saved by grace (the grace given to us in eternity as a gift from God) through faith (which is the appointed means in time) :buddies: Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 16 Sep, 2013 07:34 PM You can twist it as much as your heart desires Teach, it will never say what you believe it says. End of discussion. I've seen all of your faulty reasoning before. Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 16 Sep, 2013 07:37 PM This OP is about whether grace precedes faith or faith precedes grace. The OP still stands.....accept it or reject it, it won't change it. Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 16 Sep, 2013 08:14 PM And I say the same about your faulty conclusions that are dispersed throughout the site. Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 16 Sep, 2013 08:21 PM By what authority do you believe that a woman has the right to teach or correct a man in a public assembly of believers? Who's "authority" do you operate under here? It certainly is not a Biblical authority which means it does not come from God. Do you simply overlook or discard the plain teaching of Scripture on this as well? Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 16 Sep, 2013 08:23 PM By the way, I am still waiting for you to publicly recant your errors here earlier in this thread. Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 16 Sep, 2013 08:29 PM You falsely charge me with: "Injecting the word elect into the verses does not make it true." Yet nowhere did I change or alter the Scripture that I quoted. My comments under the passage were clearly my own explanation of the text. Then, you charge me with adding to the book of Revelation -- nowhere did I even quote from Revelation let alone add anything to it. In addition, in responding to you and Jude (who also erred), I show clearly that the these verses do speak to the Elect. You ignore this altogether because it also highlights that you have made yet another mistake. Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 16 Sep, 2013 08:37 PM And.. if all of that isn't bad enough. You set up an entirely new thread: http://www.christiandatingforfree.com/cdff/CDFF_generic/forum/forum_details.php?topic_id=18294&forum_sub_cat_id=14 For what purpose? To continue your assertion that I have added to the verses -- which I did not do. You then suppose that I feel some sort of conviction over your false allegations. And then you err yet again by quoting from Deut. which clearly speaks directly to the adding to or subtracting from the Law of God. Again, something I have not done. Frankly, I am embarrassed for you. Your inability to rightly divide God's Word is totally shameful. Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 07:24 AM And.. if all of that isn't bad enough. You set up an entirely new thread: *** Double standard ??? because you start new threads...to carry over the point you are trying to make...I mean really ???...Im going back to sleep...:zzzz:....XO Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 07:33 AM Maybe after you wake up :zzzz:..., God willing, you might be able to own your own mistakes here in this thread. We can all hope and pray. :prayingm: Post Reply
View Profile History	Huckleberry -- This one is for you! Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 01:06 PM Please show in the verse listed the WORD "elect"...Thanxs in advance...XO Post Reply

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