Author Thread: Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 06:50 AM

It is interesting to note that Luther did not believe that James and Revelation were the inspired Words of God. Calvin also did not believe that Revelation was the inspired Words of God and wrote a Commentary on every book in the Protestant Bible except Revelation??? Since all the Protestant Bibles now include the Book of Revelation most Calvinistic theologians like Dr. Kenneth Gentry will never admit that Revelation is not part of God's Word but believe that the Olivet sermon of Jesus in Matthew 24 & 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 has already happened historically or before AD 70 and that the New Jerusalem is a symbolic fairy tale.



JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE *NEW JERUSALEM*!!



Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it...And I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the NEW JERUSALEM, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."



According to Revelation 22:3 the only 2 thrones in the New Jerusalem will be the thrones of the Father and of the Lamb Jesus Christ.

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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 03:32 PM

"Dr Gentry will tell you the New Jerusalem is a symbolic fairy tale."



:laugh: Is this another prophecy or do you have an advance copy of the book? You know, it's not like the book of Revelation has any symbolism in it, right? :laugh:



Here is my offer to you: I will buy you a copy of this commentary when it's released. You can peruse it to see what it ACTUALLY says. Then, you and I can discuss the actual content of the commentary itself page by page, point by point.

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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 03:35 PM

Good advice for SDA and Calvinists:



Acts 17:11: Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and EXAMINED the SCRIPTURES *EVERY DAY*!!



James 1:22: Do not merely listen to the Word, and so deceive yourselves. **DO WHAT IT SAYS*...But the man who looks intently into the perfect lawa that gives freedom, and continuesto do this, not forgetting what he has heard, BUT DOING IT--he will be blessed in what he does!!



This is far better than memorizing a lot of Calvinistc doctrines.



I John 2"3-5: We know that we have come to know Him **IF** we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys God's Word, God's love is truly made complete in him.

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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 03:38 PM

Mark says: 'And I'm sure Amazingfacts doesn't use the label "SDA" because there is a lot of confusion out there about what "SDA" is. I could go on for quite awhile about how denominationalism is a ploy of Satan, but I won't. '



Yeah, that doesn't really pass the smell test though, does it? I mean, there is a lot of "confusion" about Christianity out there but I don't see the need to hide myself from the label. Ditto for "Calvinism", "Reformed", etc. etc. Then, there are others who go to GREAT lengths to conceal there affiliations. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why now does it?



Denominationalism is a "ploy of Satan" -- :laugh: Righty-O. Satan gets a lot of glory from the folks here that don't submit to the true "Sovereignty of God".

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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 03:44 PM

"Prophetic"



I've said this many times before and I will say it again. The test of doctrine is the Scripture itself. It is not whether some other man held to it in history or whether millions of men hold to it now.



20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?

22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD , if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him Deut. 18

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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 03:49 PM

This may help you clear up your misunderstanding over this issue Mark.



(1Cor 13:8 [NASB])

Love never fails; but if {there are gifts of} prophecy, they will be done away; if {there are} tongues, they will cease; if {there is} knowledge, it will be done away.



(AMP)

1 Cor 13:8 Love never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end]. As for prophecy (the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose), it will be fulfilled {and} pass away; as for tongues, they will be destroyed {and} cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away [it will lose its value and be superseded by truth].



(1Cor 13:8 [ESV])

Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.

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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 03:51 PM

And that is why you should be afraid of the Preterist teachings of Dr Gentry since he continually *ADDS WORDS* and takes *WORDS AWAY* from the prophesies in God's Word which are obviously not symbolic!!!

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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 03:56 PM

Not symbolic? Really? :laugh:



Are we all waiting for a beast to rise up out of the sea having ten horns and seven heads, too? :laugh:



Let me know when you spot it rising. :excited:

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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 03:57 PM

By the way, have you examined any of the materials or sermons from the other 8 names that I provided you?



Let me know when you have and I will give you 3 more.

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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 04:01 PM

(Rev 1:1 [KJB:PCE])

THE Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:



By the way, Is this verse symbolic for thousands of years? Or is it literal? Are you adding to it by saying that it's going to come someday after many centuries have past when the verse plainly states "things must come to pass SHORTLY"

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Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like Roman Catholic and Calvinistic Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"
Posted : 17 Sep, 2013 04:03 PM

Yes about 5% of Revelation is symbolic but Dr. Gentry claims it is 100% symbolic and it all took place in AD 70 which is completely ridiculous such as:



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



Dr Gentry and his Satanic Preterists believe this took place symbolically in AD 70?????

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